Use of Scotland as a LNAB [closed]

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Looking at the profile of Macbeth, king of Scotland, I was wondering how soon in history did Scotland become actually Scotland. Would Macbeth have been known by that name rather than, say, his patronymic, the name he would have been known by at birth, or by Alba or some other Gaelic or Latin  form? Do Euroaristo conventions on naming royalty concur on what kings/queens (or other ruling titles) would have been called at the peak of power or what other royalty would have called a ruler from another country?

I’m not picking, just wondering. I have no dog in this fight. Thanks ahead of time for schooling me.
WikiTree profile: Macbeth of Scotland
closed with the note: Answered by John Atkinson
in Policy and Style by Pip Sheppard G2G Astronaut (2.2m points)
closed by Pip Sheppard

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Hello Pip

Naming these early EuroAristo profiles is always a problem.  Although the WikiTree standard is to use the names they would have used, this is particularly difficult with early profiles as almost all documents from that period were written in Latin, and there was no consensus about how names should be spelled and even within the same document you can find different variations of the same name.

I'm not sure whether it was a deliberate decision but we mostly don't use the Latin name but the modern version or recognised version of the name, though still retaining differences in modern European languages as appropriate (Henry, Henri, Heinrich, etc).

With Last Name at Birth (LNAB) the preference is to use the dynastic name, but at times when this is unclear, or not known we use the country they ruled.  Again this is often the modern version of the country name.  Sometimes the LNAB might be Scotland, but the nickname field might have the more correct title, King of the Scots.
by John Atkinson G2G6 Pilot (479k points)
selected by Richard Devlin
Thanks, John. That makes sense. I can see where the difficulty comes in. I appreciate you response.

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