John Seabrook Mariner

Question

Gday List,

I need help to locate John Seabrook a mariner,born in Hackney Middlesex England in 1819, who first went to sea in 1833 as an apprentice. He obtained his ticket No 166871 in Liverpool England on 21st Jan 1845.In the 1851 Census fo St Paul District in Liverpool Ann Seabrook his wife is a widow with a son Robert.I need to know what happend to John.

Any help will be most welcome.

Bert Seabrooke in Oz

Comments

Best to be aware, for avoidance of duplicated effort,  that there is extensive discussion of this issue at http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php?t-21333.html

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Wow 'extensive' is the right word. I didn't read all of it but it's clear that Bert is not a man to abandon an idea just because an avalanche of evidence contradicts it.

The 1851 census says that Robert, 4, was born in Liverpool but I can't find a record of his birth. Let's start very slowly and cautiously with resolving this one?

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Gday Mathew

I have Robert Seabrooke born 26fh October 1846 in Liverpool

In the 1861 census there is a crossing out,but i think it said Husb Dead then goes on to say Mary Ann is Married

There is now a daughter Mary aged 8

I think Mary Ann may have been playing around

Bert in Oz

ps All that other information was me on another list

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Well, as Sherlock Holmes might have said, the case is not without some features of interest.

How do you know that the Liverpool John Seabrook was originally from London? Do you have a copy of the marriage certificate? [If not, I suggest you order one.]

I see John Seabrook married Mary Ann McMullin (or McMullen) in 1845. But in 1851 she's living with her sister Eliza and Eliza's son James and they are both called McMullen. Eliza is described as a widow so why aren't she and James going by her husband's name?

Was Robert Hazel Seabrook the son of Robert? His mother seems to have been Catherine Hardman so the Hazel didn't come from there. I see you think it may have come from John's mother possibly (Hazell). Where does John Hazel Seabrooke (born 1909) fit in? Was he Robert Hazel's son?

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Gday Mathew

I  have the marriage certificate of John Seabrooke and Mary Ann McMullin Which states his father was a Perfumer. I found out John the mariner came from London in his merchant navy records.

I have the Seabrook[e] family tree going back to the 1600s

I just dont know what happend to John the mariner nor do I know anything about the McMullins prior to 1845 in Ireland ,or any thing about Hannah Hazell the perfumers first wife.

Bert in Oz

Answer 1

Have you tried newspapers? Lost at sea would probably have been reported.

Comments

Gday Martin

I have gone through Gails Newspapers that are on line but there is no mention of Johns death, but i know there were gold rushes about this time. Also i think John received his bounty pay for his time on HMS Brisk when doing anti slavery work,so maybe he just ran away.

Bert in Oz