need surname change for "Balgrave-Blagrave"

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There's no such surname as "Balgrave-Blagrave." It looks as if whoever entered the profile wasn't sure how to spell it and put both versions in at once. The son of this man was John Blagrave. His wikipage is here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Blagrave

I don't know how to fix the lnab for John and his daughter.
WikiTree profile: John Blagrave
in Genealogy Help by Monica Edmunds G2G6 Mach 2 (28.8k points)
edited by Maggie N.
I adopted the profiles and I will add to them and fix the surnames

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Best answer

FYI; there's a pretty detailed pedigree for 'Blagrave' in Berry's "County genealogies of Berkshire' (pp. 145-8). John Blagrave was the son of Robert Blagrave and Anne Pike. He and Anne Hungerford had 5s.: Anthony, John, Edward, Oliver, Alexander and one da. Joan (or Dorothy?)

I mention this because there's no da. named Anne who m. John Bye. Their descendant Thomas Bye emigrated to Penn. in 1699 so he's currently a Gateway Ancestor. Anne (Blagrave) Bye is unsourced and should have her parents removed.

by Kirk Hess G2G6 Mach 6 (64.2k points)
selected by Monica Edmunds
Thanks for this, Kirk. I had not seen this pedigree before. I could wish they had not used that script font in an attempt to be cute, though.

I've only seen John and Anthony as children before, so will have to take a look to see what turns up on the others mentioned. I'd like to include them for the Hungerford connection.

I see you have placed a note Anne's page, thanks.
+5 votes
Hi Monica, the profile is open, therefore you could change it. Maybe get in touch with the Pm and suggest the change first, citing your source and reason for the change. It very easy to change. When you change the LNAB you will be prompted for a reason for the change, enter the reason as being duplicate name/Typo.
by Shaun Doust G2G6 Pilot (345k points)
Sorry, Shaun, but although the profile is Open, the only people who can change the LNAB are the Profile Manager or those on the Trusted List.
Only the Profile Manager can change the LNAB.

(In any case, it needs Pre-1700 Certification)
I did point out the problem to the profile manager some months ago, but there seems to be no response. I changed the current last name, but can't fix the lnab.
The thing is, you did so as a public comment.  She may not have seen it (for some strange reason).  Try sending her a PM.
Thank you Ros, that is exactly why I said that she should contact the PM first, and Peter, she is Pre 1500 certified, otherwise I would have suggested she ask for help of someone who was Pre 1700 certified. As Ros has suggested send the PM a private message. If you don't get a response then you can file an unresponsive PM request.
I wouldn't recommend a UPM request at this stage, since the last time the PM was on WikiTree was only 13 June 18, and UPMs are usually only filed when the PM hasn't been on WT for a while.  

I would actually recommend filing an MIR (Mentor Intervention Request) and quoting "6.A.1" - but ONLY after sending them a PM. See:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Problems_with_Members

btw, the PM is not pre-1700 certified, and she would be the one making the change.
The PM is pre-1700 certified and the profile pre-1500, so the PM could change the LNAB. I would still recommend to contact the PM directly and if there is no response, try a trusted list request. The Unresponsive Profile Manager form has an option for PMs who are active but do not respond. (and there are some drawbacks with filing MIRs with this sort of problem).

On a side note, the profile is unsourced. Perhaps filling it a bit would draw the PM's attention.
Thanks, all

I'll see what info of value I can add to the profiles and also try a private connect with the PM.

I suspect now it may be a case of the PM taking the info from a family tree in which someone who was uncertain of the surname used the hyphen meaning (either this)-(or that) and thinking that it was an actual surname.

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