Further investigations re Canavan heritage

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I'm trying to locate the parents of my GGF John Canavan. John's mother was listed differently per document: wedding gave her as Mary Carter, death as Julia Carthy. A birth certificate for John in Callan gives parents as William Canavan and Judith Carthy. In looking for the birth of William and Judith, I've found William baptized 1843 and married Judith Carty 15-Feb-1859, both in Callan; sadly no ages, addresses or parents were recorded. If born 1843 makes him pretty young to marry. There is only one birth for William so that seems likely to be him, but looking for a birth for Judith I find 4 records. What can I do to narrow it to the right Judith? And of course I'm not sure she was born in Kilkenny.

Baptismal/Birth Records for Ireland

4 matches for the search criteria: CARTY (plus variants) JUDITH 1838-1848
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Action Source Surname First Name Year County  
View Church Baptism Carty Judith 1842 Co. Kilkenny image
View Church Baptism Carty Judith 1844 Co. Kilkenny image
View Church Baptism Carty Judith 1838 Co. Kilkenny image
View Church Baptism Carty Judith 1838 Co. Kilkenny image
WikiTree profile: William Canavan
in Genealogy Help by Theresa Myers G2G6 Mach 1 (13.5k points)

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Hello Theresa, Had a wee look at the Irish Genealogy Site and the Family Search Site as well as the Findmypast Site,I mention these sites as they are not bad to use for research. I found out that there was aWilliam Canavan married a Judith Carty 13th Feb.1860 Parish of Calla County of Kilkenny in Ireland.

Their Children I believe are John Born Oct.08th 1870  Bridget B. Jan.19th 1869  Alice B.23rd June 1867  Amty 3rd Dec.1872 Two of the names were hard to make out Alice and Amty but their birth dates are right.I also found a William Canavan Born 1834 died 1889 In Callan Kilkenny Ireland.                        

Hope this is helpful.
by Peter Callaghan G2G2 (2.6k points)
Thank you! Would you be able to point me to the documents for the children? I was hoping there was a Mary, to solve a connection to a DNA match of mine.

Any ideas as to how I might identify the right Judith, for birth and parents? Also Williams parents John and Ellen Doyle?
John and Ellen are parents to the William born 1843; if 1834 as you found, do you have parents' names - and the location of that document? Makes the marriage date more plausible, age 26 instead of 16
Hello Theresa,  You are correct about Williams parents.I checked for his birth on the Irish Genealogy Site and saw the transcript.I also checked on the same site for their children's births and verified their transcripts.

The William I found that was born in 1834 and died in 1889 the information  shows where he died and not where he was born.

The marriage transcript that I looked at shows William to be married to a Judith Carty in the County of Kilkenny.All the children that i mentioned show  these two as their Parents.

I have a Sophia Canavan in my family tree she was born in Scotland but her parents were Irish so i'm going to have lots of fun looking for them.We may have a common relative somewhere in our trees.
Interesting! The Canavans have been a bit tough, as well as the Bowdens my GGF was perhaps Welsh, born in England, haven't been able to find his birth record.

And Irish records continue to elude me - can find nothing you are citing on Irish.genealogy.ie, searching civil or church records - can you walk me through how to find the records. Also, are you saying no parents for William because you haven't found the birth record?

Thanks!
Hello Theresa,   The parents I Found for William were John Canavan and Ellen Doyle. He was born Jan 01st 1843 Paulstown,Kildare and Leighlin Kilkenny, Ireland.He would have been 17 years old when He Married Judith Carter .

The record I Found for Judith shows that she was Born Jan 3rd 1836 Paulstown,Kildare and Leighlin Kilkenny Ireland.

Father Richard Carty and Her Mother Ellen Headen.

Witnesses Thomas McMahon and Judith Carty.

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