Can someone help me find info about Jacques James ?

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I'm looking for any information for my 4th gr-grandfather.  He ended up at St. Andre d'Arguenteuil, Quebec, Canada where he was granted a parcel of land from Patrick Murray in 1804. Other than the 1825 census, there is no other information of where he came from.  It's believed he was a black Loyalist.  His name has many variations, but is known as Jacques James Robinson/Robertson and was married to Marie Trottier although there is no marriage record.  Does anyone have any info they could share?
in Genealogy Help by Donna Robinson G2G2 (2.3k points)

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I saw your post and I thought I could help. When I first saw this I thought he must have come from France. I believe now he came from New South Wales, Nova Scotia.  I went to the Familysearch.org and was able to find out that he died in 1838 in St. Andre  d' Arquenteuil.  I was also able to find his Pedigree Chart Resource File Submission ID  MMD1-21c.  I was also able to find his children that is listed on his Family Pedigree and they are as follows:  

Joseph Robinson 1799- 1875 -  his spouse is Esther Payineau - 1820-1896. -------------Jean Baptiste Robeson  -----1804   --------Francois Robinson --1806---   Marquerite Robertson --1808  --------Benjamin Robertson -  1810 ------------Louise Robertson --1815.  

James Robinson was born 1780 and I believe that it was New South Wales, Nova Scotia. However I don't have the proof you need. But I am going to the genealogy Center today and hopefully I can find something on him, I didn't think about going to Nova Scotia to see if that is where he got married.    I will let you know what I find out if any. Thanks for letting me work this one.  Nancy
by Nancy Turney G2G6 Mach 2 (27.0k points)
Hi Nancy, thank you for the info.  I do have all the info that you posted. Death is listed as 1838 because that was the last known event he attended was at his son's marriage. in 1838, then there's nothing.I have never been able to find anything on his birth at all.  1780 is a guess that most researchers have, it's also the birth year for his wife Marie Trottier (she is a Quebecoise).  The 1825 Census lists him as a married male 40 but not yet 60 yrs of age, so his birth year could be anytime in that age span from 1765-1785.

I would love any info you could turn up on him from the Genealogy center!
Hi both,

I'm also a potential descendent of Jacque/James and Marie. My GG grandmother was Margaret (Marguerite) Robinson from Quebec. She was a woman of colour (either black or mixed) born Aug 1812. She met my GG grandfather in Montreal and they emigrated to Port Hope Ontario, marrying there and finally settling in Centralia Ontario, just outside of London. Many members of our family have undergone DNA testing and consistently we're showing mid/west African ancestry - the story in our family was always GG was native. There's no native showing up and I've not got a photo of her, as well as her eldest daughter and youngest son (my G grandfather) which definitely suggest African vs native ancestry. I'd like to explore this further. Have you done any DNA research?
Hi both,

I'm also a potential descendent of Jacque/James and Marie. My GG grandmother was Margaret (sometimes listed as Marguerite) Robinson from Quebec. She was a woman of colour (either black or mixed) born August 1812. She met my GG grandfather in Montreal and they emigrated to Port Hope, Ontario, marrying there and finally settling in Centralia Ontario, just outside of London. Many members of our family have undergone DNA testing and consistency we're showing mid/west African ancestry. The story in our family was always GG was native. There's no native showing up and I've now got a photo of her, as well as her eldest daughter and youngest son (my G grandfather) which definitely suggest African vs native ancestry. I'd like to explore this further. Have you done any DNA research?
Wow!  This is fantastic Melodie!  I've been researching for a long time and have never been able to get anything on Marguerite at all. We see the odd record of her being godmother at some of her nieces and nephews baptisms but nothing else!  My brother, me, my three children and my dad's sister all have a tiny bit of African DNA.  It all comes from the same area.  Cameroon/Congo/Southern Bantu and Ivory Coast/Ghana regions.  It's varies in percentages from some families to the others.  My 3rd great grandfather is Joseph Robinson (Robertson) and my 3rd great grandmother is Marguerite Eugenie Villeneuve.  Joseph was married a 2nd time to Esther Papineau.  The native comes from the maternal side of the Villeneuve sisters who married these Robinson men.  Marguerite Eugenie Villeneuve married Joseph Robinson, Rosalie married Benjamin and Angelique married Jean Baptiste.  The Villeneuve women's mother is Marie Anne Suzanne Quesnel, her parents were Louis Quesnel and  Marie Suzanne Wakakejiyokwe Magoya.

Melodie, I've been doing research for about 20 years now and have had some of the Robinsons tested.  Would be interested in communicating and would love more information on Marguerite!
Just another comment about Marguerite, she was born in 20 Aug 1808 and there is a baptism record.
Donna,

This is super exciting for us... we've been trying to crack this nut for so long, and we have sifted through a lot of misinformation perpetrated by two generations above about who Margaret/Marguerite was. I'm on a mission to bring her into the light. There are so many "coincidences" that I'm convinced this is who she was. Let's connect by email and I can give you more information. I'm at melodiebarnett@gmail.com.

Looking forward to connecting!

Melodie
Hello ladies,

I was looking over the information you have for Robinson, Robertson & Robeson.

Do you have any information that any of them settled or were born in Georgia or South Carolina?

My gg grandfather was African american but looked white.  I have found cousins through Ancestry that state the same about their GG Grandfather. We think both were brothers.

Your heritage seems very close to mine.

Cameroon, Congo, Benin/Togo etc...

Some of the names match my ancestors however the dates don't. However we don't have any info prior to 1870.
Hi Paulette,

I’m pretty new to this search and Donna may have more, but I’m exploring James/Jacques further. The Nova Scotia angle makes sense whether he (or his parents ... the spread we have on his birth date is quite broad) was a free man or a freed slave, though New South Wales doesn’t work; would likely be Halifax. Many loyalists were evacuated from the US, specifically New York (see Book of Negros) as a result of their loyalty to the crown during the revolutionary war. Upon further digging there is a small subset of Robinsons and Robertsons who require further investigation. A few of these are South Carolinian. However, this would be 1780s/90s. Not sure that lines up with your query.

Melodie

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