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Question

I found lots of records for Emmett, but all they do is lead to more questions:

• When was he really born?
• When did he really die?
• What is his middle name?
• What are the (not shown) names of two of his children?

PLEEEZ - can someone wake me from this nightmare?  Better yet, does anyone want to take over managing this profile? I will be orphaning it as soon as I finish doing all that I can for him.

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Aren't the many children those who are named in the census data you noted?

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3AJackson~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Aar~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1902-1930~%20%2Bfather_givenname%3Aemmett~%20%2Bfather_surname%3Ajackson~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3A%22addie%20elsie%22~

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Almost all of them are the records I have in the sources.  Near the bottom of the page you linked, there are records for an L E Jackson with wife Elsie, but this is a 1930 census record for a different family - I already have the 1930 census record for the family I'm working on plus this family is in a different county.

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Yes, and you say you are looking for names of 2 children.  I was simply noting that children of Elsie and Addie are in the census with them as the mother.  Which '2' are you looking for?

(the other unrelated LE Jackson is just someone who comes up in the general search results)

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The ones whose first names are missing from the census records - one of them is just blank and the other one is shown as B*.  Both are included in the list of children I put in the Notes section.

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I connected him to the tree, 20 steps from Queen Victoria.

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I just now saw this exchange.  I believe this is a line I've worked on so I'll adopt him for now and see what I can do.

Answer 1

Hey Gaile,

You've put a lot of work into this........  I started reviewing the question about his children and realized you have some  "XTRA"  records involved.    The WWI and WWII records are both for an Emmett Jackson who is  african-american  and born on April 24, 1885.   (All the census records are for a  "white" Emmett Jackson.)   The Social Security death record for August 1984 is for the same Emmett Jackson that was born April 24, 1885.... (wow, he was 99)    

If these three records are removed,,,, things might simplify.

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This seems to fit the census records posted:

"United States World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K357-WV3 : 13 March 2018), Emmett Hoyle Jackson, 1917-1918; citing Prairie County, Arkansas, United States, NARA microfilm publication M1509 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,530,573

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Peggy, those records support the discussion in the notes section of the profile about a different Emmet Jackson.  If those records are not included then someday someone will find them and mistake them for being for the same person, possibly changing the data to match these wrong records.  The World War I draft registration you found is already described in the biography and included in the sources.

If you look at the edit page, you can see the names I used for the "extra" records in the tags - things like <ref name="WRONGww1draft"> - and if you look way down on the edit page, you can see where I included all the data from all the sources - just for editing convenience so you don't have to click the links and go to each source separately to compare all the data.

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You're way ahead of me.......

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Nah, I don't think so ... the only thing I'm ahead of you on is time spent on this profile - I started working on it before you did!

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I haven't quit yet!   Just not finding anything new.   One thing you might want to edit in the biography  (just to add clarity,  I'm not usually a nit picker)

Under your  "Notes" regarding his middle name,   you say his WWI record says Henry and his FAG says Hoyle..... I think these should be reversed.    I have a tendency to give the WWI record more weight,  since he actually signed it himself as  Emmett Hoyle Jackson.

The only interesting thing I found to look into relates to a Fred Berrie Jackson's  WWII first draft record.

"Arkansas First Draft Registration Cards, 1940-1945," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXWT-1VG : 13 March 2018), Fred Berrie Jackson, 1940-1945; citing De Witt, Arkansas, Arkansas, United States, National Archives and Records Administration, Southwest Region, Fort Worth, Texas; FamilySearch digital folder 005150163.

(not sure this link will work)

His provides his sister's name for a contact person:  It's Naoma (Nonie?) Hearn.    However,  I haven't found any useful leads from this name.

This may be Otis......"United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQJ1-HW7 : accessed 3 July 2018), Otis R Jackson, Prairie Township, Arkansas, Arkansas, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 1-24, sheet 16B, line 74, family 277, Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA digital publication T627. Records of the Bureau of the Census, 1790 - 2007, RG 29. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012, roll 116.

I'll have to sign off for the day. 

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I just made the correction to the middle name/source connections - it's hardly nit-picking - THANX for picking that up and, for the future, feel free to make changes - the profile's open and I *asked* for help with it!!!

THANX also for all your work on this.  I wasn't planning to add profiles for the children.  In addition to so many contradictions and missing stuff in records, if I don't find death records for the younger ones, they're a few years too young to add (they'd be unlisted) and I want to be able to add all children or none - to only add some could be misleading because people won't immediately realize that there are more than they see listed in the data section.

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I like your approach.....  I was hoping to find some of their graves in the cemetery with their parents  "memorials" and fill in the missing names at least....but no luck there.   I suspect the unnamed daughter between Otis and Beulah died before 1920,  perhaps was never named. .....

OK I'm getting sucked in again!

You go great work.