Long shot, anybody can find more data on this couple?

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Nicolas Bourgeois dit le grand Picard and his wife Claire Carpentier married in France, presumably in Picardie with his dit name, and came over to the colony before october 1670, which is the date of first record found for them here.

Any possibility of narrowing his origin down, finding records, anything?  I think his first 2 children might have been born in France, or one of them on board ship coming here, don't know.

Don't have access to PRDH, anybody who does, can you look-see if they have more info?
WikiTree profile: Nicolas Bourgeois
in Genealogy Help by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (385k points)
Denis' site is pretty good and does not seem to have anything earlier - http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec-genealogy/016/016096.php
thanks James, been there already, know the site.  Corresponded with the man on occasion.

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In PRDH, I am seeing Marie-Madeleine baptized 14 Mar 1678 in Quebec City, born the day before. Parish: Notre Dame de Quebec. Mother Claire Carpentier/Charpentier is noted as being from Picardie, born around 1643. Father Nicolas Bourgeois dit Picard is noted as being from there as well, born around 1641. The link to the original document requires access to https://www.genealogiequebec.com/Membership/LAFRANCE/img/acte/59645.
by Liz Ruest G2G1 (1.2k points)
his Liz, thanks, already have the kids born here, it's the origin that is the problem, his second marriage only says he is widower of Claire, nothing more.  Trying to move up the tree.
Gotcha -- just trying to fill in what I could see on PRDH, which confirms your suspicions but not much else. :) Good luck!
I added three more children from the burial dates given in PRDH, but I'm having trouble finding the burial records in the free images on FamilySearch. I'll try again later today with the hope that we can move to departmental archives in France soon.
On WeRelate the marriage is stated as in Aisne. But which of the dozens of communes?

https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Claire_Carpentier_(1)

http://archives.aisne.fr/archive/recherche/etatcivil/n:11
Hi Karen, I would say that Aisne is almost a no-brainer for them to have come up with it, but there is nothing giving any evidence for it over anything else in Picardie.

On the children's funerals, not too worried about it, already found in IGD, not like these kids had descendants.  And the extra children in the census are a question mark, those censuses of the time have some errors in them, sometimes huge.  No other trace of these kids found.

There is a large dearth of records for this family over here, I think I may have found one or 2 contracts involving Nicolas, and that's it.  The daughter Marie Françoise marries and then disappears with her husband, inclined to think they left the area, either further inland or back to France.
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Could you check if the data given here Geneanet

is correct ?

by D Q G2G6 Mach 6 (68.8k points)

doesn't seem to be because this Nicolas BOURGEOIS got married in 1675 in Châlons-sur-Marne, Saint-Loup parish (06/JUN/1675) to Jeanne GENY. Marriage record frame 92

Hi David,

Me semble que quelqu'un a pris les données d'Ancestry dans ce truc, ils mettent sa naissance en Auvergne, qui est loin de la Picardie si ma géographie est bonne.  Ils ont l'épouse Claire Carpentier et les enfants sont là, la date de décès est en fait la date du mariage de sa fille, où il est cité présent.  MDR, celui-là a eu confiance dans les arbres d'Ancestry.

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