Tracing Martha Moore: Albert Edward MURPHY Birth Certificate

Question

I am trying to clafiy who the correct Martha Moore is in my family tree.

So I am working from what's known ie Albert Edward Murphy, -11445  my father, and wanted to share this Birth Certificate photo of Albert Murphy with the community. Location: BETHNAL GREEN NORTH EAST, LONDON. Date: 8 Jun 1918.

Note that his father is also Albert Edward Murphy -11483 and mother Ada Lily Murphy , -50912 formerly JONES.;;

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Answer 1

In the profile you have for Martha you are suggesting she married in 1867 in Bethnal Green. I would suggest that you first look for her in the marital household in the 1871 census to get an indication of birth location, then track her back into the 1861 and 1851 censuses to find her parents' names.  After that you can look for the civil registration birth record on the GRO website and for a baptism record in the relevant parish.

Answer 2

The following entries best match your Martha.

Martha Moore

England and Wales Census, 1851

Name	Martha Moore
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1851
Event Place	Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Registration District	Bethnal Green
Residence Note	Barnsley Street
Gender	Female
Age	6
Occupation	At Home
Relationship to Head of Household	Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated)	1845
Birthplace	Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Page Number	60
Registration Number	HO107
Piece/Folio	1540 / 429
Affiliate Record Type	Household

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Susannah Moore	Head	F	43	Spitalfields, Middlesex
James Moore	Son	M	17	Spitalfields, Middlesex
Charles Moore	Son	M	15	Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Susannah Moore	Daughter	F	9	Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Martha Moore	Daughter	F	6	Bethnal Green, Middlesex

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1851," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG5P-2X9 : 10 November 2017), Martha Moore in household of Susannah Moore, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England; citing Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England, p. 60, from "1851 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO HO 107, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

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Martha Mare

England and Wales Census, 1861

Name	Martha Mare
County	London, Middlesex
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1861
Event Place	Bethnal Green, London, Middlesex, England
Ecclesiastical Parish	St Johns
Registration District	Bethnal Green
Residence Note	Bates Place
Gender	Female
Age	16
Marital Status	Unmarried
Occupation	Machinist
Relationship to Head of Household	Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated)	1845
Birthplace	Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Page Number	2
Registration Number	RG09
Piece/Folio	257 / 22
Affiliate Record Type	Household

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Mark Aarcher	Head	M	21	Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Susan Aarcher	Wife	F	20	N K
Susanah Mare	Mother	F	53	Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Martha Mare	Daughter	F	16	Bethnal Green, Middlesex

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1861," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-8YQ1 : 10 December 2017), Martha Mare in household of Mark Aarcher, Bethnal Green, London, Middlesex, England; from "1861 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast(http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 9, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

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Martha Murphy

England and Wales Census, 1871

Name	Martha Murphy
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1871
Event Place	Bethnal Green, London, Middlesex, England
Enumeration District	14
Gender	Female
Age	25
Marital Status	Married
Relationship to Head of Household	Wife
Birth Year (Estimated)	1846
Birthplace	Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Entry Number	2
Affiliate Image Identifier	GBC/1871/0486/0150

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Andrew Murphy	Head	M	24	Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Martha Murphy	Wife	F	25	Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Andrew Murphy	Son	M	4	Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Martha Murphy	Daughter	F	0	Bethnal Green, Middlesex

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRJV-T5J : 12 December 2017), Martha Murphy in entry for Andrew Murphy, 1871.

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Name	Martha Murphy
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1881
Event Place	Bethnal Green, London,Middlesex, England
Registration District	Bethnal Green
Residence Note	Terr Essex St
Gender	Female
Age	36
Marital Status (Original)	Married
Occupation	Husband & Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household	Wife Head
Birth Year (Estimated)	1845
Birthplace	London B G, London, Middlesex, England
Page Number	1
Registration Number	RG11
Piece/Folio	419/71
Affiliate Record Type	Household

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Martha Murphy	Wife Head	F	36	London B G, London, Middlesex, England
Wm Andrew Murphy	Son	M	14	London B G, London, Middlesex, England
Martha Murphy	Daughter	F	10	London B G, London, Middlesex, England
John Murphy	Son	M	8	London B G, London, Middlesex, England
James Murphy	Son	M	6	London B G, London, Middlesex, England
Arthur Murphy	Son	M	4	London B G, London, Middlesex, England
Susannah Murphy	Daughter	F	2	London B G, London, Middlesex, England

Citation

"England and Wales Census, 1881," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/QK6T-D46G : 8 December 2017), Martha Murphy, Bethnal Green, London,Middlesex, England; from "1881 England, Scotland and Wales Census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing p. 1, Piece/Folio 419/71, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey; FHL microfilm 101,774,260.

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Name	Martha Murphy
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1891
County	London
Parish	Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical Parish	TRINITY STEPNEY
Registration District	Mile End Old Town
Residence Note	South Grove
Gender	Female
Age	45
Marital Status	Married
Relationship to Head of Household	Wife
Birth Year (Estimated)	1846
Birthplace	London, England
Page Number	41
Registration Number	RG12
Piece/Folio	310/ 136

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
William A Murphy	Head	M	44	London, England
Martha Murphy	Wife	F	45	London, England
Jack Murphy	Son	M	25	London, England
Arthur Murphy	Son	M	15	London, England
Susannah Murphy	Daughter	F	13	London, England
Isabella Murphy	Daughter	F	11	London, England
Mark Murphy	Son	M	10	London, England
Mary A Murphy	Daughter	F	8	London, England
Henry Murphy	Son	M	5	London, England
Albert Murphy	Son	M	0	Mile End, London, England

Citation

"England and Wales Census, 1891," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/QHM8-2T2 : 10 December 2017), Martha Murphy in household of William A Murphy, Mile End Old Town, London, England; from "1891 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 12, London county, subdistrict, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

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Name	Martha Murphy
Event Type	Census
Event Date	31 Mar 1901
Event Place	Bow Or Stratford-Le-Bow, London, Middlesex, England
County	London, Middlesex
Civil Parish	Bow Or Stratford-Le-Bow
Ecclesiastical Parish	St Stephen'S
Sub-District	Bow
Registration District	Poplar
Residence Note	Morville Street
Gender	Female
Age	56
Relationship to Head of Household	Wife
Birth Year (Estimated)	1845
Birthplace	Bethnal Green, London
Schedule Type	110
Page Number	13

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
William A Murphy	Head	M	53	Bethnal Green, London
Martha Murphy	Wife	F	56	Bethnal Green, London
Isabella Murphy	Daughter	F	20	Bethnal Green, London
Mark C Murphy	Son	M	19	Bethnal Green, London
Henry F Murphy	Son	M	15	Mile End, London
Albert E Murphy	Son	M	10	Mile End, London

Citation

"England and Wales Census, 1901," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X9CZ-B1Q : 8 April 2016), Martha Murphy in household of William A Murphy, Bow Or Stratford-Le-Bow, London, Middlesex, England; from "1901 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing Bow subdistrict, PRO RG 13, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

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Name	Martha Murphy
Event Type	Census
Event Date	1911
Event Place	Poplar Borough, Bow E, London, England
County	London
Parish	Poplar Borough
Sub-District	Bow
Registration District	Poplar
Gender	Female
Age	67
Marital Status (Original)	MARRIED
Birth Year (Estimated)	1844
Birthplace	London Bethnal Green, London
Relationship to Head of Household	Wife
Record Type	Household
Line	2
Page	1
Years of Marriage	25

Household	Role	Sex	Age	Birthplace
Andrew Murphy	Head	M	65	London Bethnal Green, London
Martha Murphy	Wife	F	67	London Bethnal Green, London
Mark Murphy	Son	M	29	London Bethnal Green, London
Albert Murphy	Son	M	20	London Bethnal Green, London

Citation

"England and Wales Census, 1911," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XWPC-G1L : 1 August 2017), Martha Murphy in household of Andrew Murphy, Poplar Borough, Bow E, London, England; from "1911 England and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 14, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

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Martha Moore

England and Wales Birth Registration Index

Name	Martha Moore
Event Type	Birth Registration
Registration Quarter	Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year	1844
Registration District	Bethnal Green
County	London
Event Place	Bethnal Green, London, England
Volume	2
Page	6
Line Number	20

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26BC-W3G : 1 October 2014), Martha Moore, 1844; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast(http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Bethnal Green, London, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

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Martha Moore

England Births and Christenings

Name	Martha Moore
Gender	Female
Christening Date	20 Oct 1844
Christening Date (Original)	20 OCT 1844
Christening Place	SAINT DUNSTAN,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
Father's Name	James Moore
Mother's Name	Susan

Citing this Record

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPZM-7Q8 : 11 February 2018, Martha Moore, 20 Oct 1844); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 596,913, 596,914, 596,915, 596,916.

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Martha Murphy

England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007

Name	Martha Murphy
Event Type	Death
Registration Quarter	Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year	1913
Registration District	Poplar
County	London
Event Place	Poplar, London, England
Age (available after 1866)	69
Birth Year (Estimated)	1844
Volume	1C
Page	503
Line Number	26

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2N1B-4PJ : 31 December 2014), Martha Murphy, 1913; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast(http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Death, Poplar, London, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

Answer 3

This is all very muddled. The dates are way out. Albert Edward was born 1892, when Martha was 47. Isabella was born in 1881. This is based on 1901 census.

1881 census has 6 children between 14 and 2. Eldest is William Andrew.

William Andrew married Martha Moore 1867.

Martha was born around 1845. Father James John Moore and mother Esther Humm. Her marriage certificate agrees.