Tracing Martha Moore: Albert Edward MURPHY Birth Certificate

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I am trying to clafiy who the correct Martha Moore is in my family tree.

So I am working from what's known ie Albert Edward Murphy, -11445  my father, and wanted to share this Birth Certificate photo of Albert Murphy with the community. Location: BETHNAL GREEN NORTH EAST, LONDON. Date: 8 Jun 1918.

Note that his father is also Albert Edward Murphy -11483 and mother Ada Lily Murphy , -50912 formerly JONES.;;
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WikiTree profile: Albert Murphy
in Genealogy Help by Christine Murphy G2G2 (2.6k points)
recategorized by Lynda Crackett

3 Answers

+3 votes
In the profile you have for Martha you are suggesting she married in 1867 in Bethnal Green. I would suggest that you first look for her in the marital household in the 1871 census to get an indication of birth location, then track her back into the 1861 and 1851 censuses to find her parents' names.  After that you can look for the civil registration birth record on the GRO website and for a baptism record in the relevant parish.
by Lynda Crackett G2G6 Pilot (630k points)
+3 votes

The following entries best match your Martha.

Martha Moore

England and Wales Census, 1851

Name Martha Moore
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Registration District Bethnal Green
Residence Note Barnsley Street
Gender Female
Age 6
Occupation At Home
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1845
Birthplace Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Page Number 60
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 1540 / 429
Affiliate Record Type Household

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Susannah Moore Head F 43 Spitalfields, Middlesex
James Moore Son M 17 Spitalfields, Middlesex
Charles Moore Son M 15 Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Susannah Moore Daughter F 9 Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Martha Moore Daughter F 6 Bethnal Green, Middlesex

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1851," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG5P-2X9 : 10 November 2017), Martha Moore in household of Susannah Moore, Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England; citing Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England, p. 60, from "1851 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO HO 107, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

by Deb Durham G2G Astronaut (1.0m points)
edited by Deb Durham

Martha Mare

England and Wales Census, 1861

Name Martha Mare
County London, Middlesex
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Event Place Bethnal Green, London, Middlesex, England
Ecclesiastical Parish St Johns
Registration District Bethnal Green
Residence Note Bates Place
Gender Female
Age 16
Marital Status Unmarried
Occupation Machinist
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1845
Birthplace Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Page Number 2
Registration Number RG09
Piece/Folio 257 / 22
Affiliate Record Type Household

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Mark Aarcher Head M 21 Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Susan Aarcher Wife F 20 N K
Susanah Mare Mother F 53 Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Martha Mare Daughter F 16 Bethnal Green, Middlesex

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1861," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-8YQ1 : 10 December 2017), Martha Mare in household of Mark Aarcher, Bethnal Green, London, Middlesex, England; from "1861 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast(http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 9, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

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Martha Murphy

England and Wales Census, 1871

Name Martha Murphy
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Bethnal Green, London, Middlesex, England
Enumeration District 14
Gender Female
Age 25
Marital Status Married
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birth Year (Estimated) 1846
Birthplace Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Entry Number 2
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/0486/0150

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Andrew Murphy Head M 24 Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Martha Murphy Wife F 25 Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Andrew Murphy Son M 4 Bethnal Green, Middlesex
Martha Murphy Daughter F 0 Bethnal Green, Middlesex

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRJV-T5J : 12 December 2017), Martha Murphy in entry for Andrew Murphy, 1871.

Name Martha Murphy
Event Type Census
Event Date 1881
Event Place Bethnal Green, London,Middlesex, England
Registration District Bethnal Green
Residence Note Terr Essex St
Gender Female
Age 36
Marital Status (Original) Married
Occupation Husband & Labourer
Relationship to Head of Household Wife Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1845
Birthplace London B G, London, Middlesex, England
Page Number 1
Registration Number RG11
Piece/Folio 419/71
Affiliate Record Type Household

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Martha Murphy Wife Head F 36 London B G, London, Middlesex, England
Wm Andrew Murphy Son M 14 London B G, London, Middlesex, England
Martha Murphy Daughter F 10 London B G, London, Middlesex, England
John Murphy Son M 8 London B G, London, Middlesex, England
James Murphy Son M 6 London B G, London, Middlesex, England
Arthur Murphy Son M 4 London B G, London, Middlesex, England
Susannah Murphy Daughter F 2 London B G, London, Middlesex, England

Citation

"England and Wales Census, 1881," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/QK6T-D46G : 8 December 2017), Martha Murphy, Bethnal Green, London,Middlesex, England; from "1881 England, Scotland and Wales Census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing p. 1, Piece/Folio 419/71, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey; FHL microfilm 101,774,260.

Name Martha Murphy
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County London
Parish Mile End Old Town
Ecclesiastical Parish TRINITY STEPNEY
Registration District Mile End Old Town
Residence Note South Grove
Gender Female
Age 45
Marital Status Married
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birth Year (Estimated) 1846
Birthplace London, England
Page Number 41
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 310/ 136

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

William A Murphy Head M 44 London, England
Martha Murphy Wife F 45 London, England
Jack Murphy Son M 25 London, England
Arthur Murphy Son M 15 London, England
Susannah Murphy Daughter F 13 London, England
Isabella Murphy Daughter F 11 London, England
Mark Murphy Son M 10 London, England
Mary A Murphy Daughter F 8 London, England
Henry Murphy Son M 5 London, England
Albert Murphy Son M 0 Mile End, London, England

Citation

"England and Wales Census, 1891," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/QHM8-2T2 : 10 December 2017), Martha Murphy in household of William A Murphy, Mile End Old Town, London, England; from "1891 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 12, London county, subdistrict, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

Name Martha Murphy
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Bow Or Stratford-Le-Bow, London, Middlesex, England
County London, Middlesex
Civil Parish Bow Or Stratford-Le-Bow
Ecclesiastical Parish St Stephen'S
Sub-District Bow
Registration District Poplar
Residence Note Morville Street
Gender Female
Age 56
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Birth Year (Estimated) 1845
Birthplace Bethnal Green, London
Schedule Type 110
Page Number 13

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

William A Murphy Head M 53 Bethnal Green, London
Martha Murphy Wife F 56 Bethnal Green, London
Isabella Murphy Daughter F 20 Bethnal Green, London
Mark C Murphy Son M 19 Bethnal Green, London
Henry F Murphy Son M 15 Mile End, London
Albert E Murphy Son M 10 Mile End, London

Citation

"England and Wales Census, 1901," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X9CZ-B1Q : 8 April 2016), Martha Murphy in household of William A Murphy, Bow Or Stratford-Le-Bow, London, Middlesex, England; from "1901 England, Scotland and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing Bow subdistrict, PRO RG 13, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey.

Name Martha Murphy
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
Event Place Poplar Borough, Bow E, London, England
County London
Parish Poplar Borough
Sub-District Bow
Registration District Poplar
Gender Female
Age 67
Marital Status (Original) MARRIED
Birth Year (Estimated) 1844
Birthplace London Bethnal Green, London
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Record Type Household
Line 2
Page 1
Years of Marriage 25

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

Andrew Murphy Head M 65 London Bethnal Green, London
Martha Murphy Wife F 67 London Bethnal Green, London
Mark Murphy Son M 29 London Bethnal Green, London
Albert Murphy Son M 20 London Bethnal Green, London

Citation

"England and Wales Census, 1911," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XWPC-G1L : 1 August 2017), Martha Murphy in household of Andrew Murphy, Poplar Borough, Bow E, London, England; from "1911 England and Wales census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing PRO RG 14, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Surrey.

Martha Moore

England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name Martha Moore
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1844
Registration District Bethnal Green
County London
Event Place Bethnal Green, London, England
Volume 2
Page 6
Line Number 20
Citing this Record

"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:26BC-W3G : 1 October 2014), Martha Moore, 1844; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast(http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Bethnal Green, London, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

Martha Moore

England Births and Christenings
Name Martha Moore
Gender Female
Christening Date 20 Oct 1844
Christening Date (Original) 20 OCT 1844
Christening Place SAINT DUNSTAN,STEPNEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
Father's Name James Moore
Mother's Name Susan
Citing this Record

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPZM-7Q8 : 11 February 2018, Martha Moore, 20 Oct 1844); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 596,913, 596,914, 596,915, 596,916.

Martha Murphy

England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007

Name Martha Murphy
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1913
Registration District Poplar
County London
Event Place Poplar, London, England
Age (available after 1866) 69
Birth Year (Estimated) 1844
Volume 1C
Page 503
Line Number 26

Citing this Record

"England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2N1B-4PJ : 31 December 2014), Martha Murphy, 1913; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast(http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Death, Poplar, London, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

+2 votes
This is all very muddled. The dates are way out. Albert Edward was born 1892, when Martha was 47. Isabella was born in 1881. This is based on 1901 census.

1881 census has 6 children between 14 and 2. Eldest is William Andrew.

William Andrew married Martha Moore 1867.

Martha was born around 1845. Father James John Moore and mother Esther Humm. Her marriage certificate agrees.
by anonymous G2G6 Pilot (257k points)

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