Birth information William Martel in 1930 age 0

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William Martel in 1930 Census for Winthrop, Suffolk County Massachusetts. Age 0 is shown with my Uncle & possibly his Father Albert MacDonald Martel living with the Sweeny Family as Boarders. Can not find any Birth Info. for William. Assistance would be appreciated!
in Genealogy Help by Ronald Martel G2G1 (1.0k points)
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William A Martel

 in the Massachusetts, Birth Index, 1860-1970

Name: William A Martel
Birth Date: 1930
Birth Place: Fall River, Massachusetts, USA
Volume Number: 67
Page Number: 47
Index Volume Number: 121
Reference Number: F63.M362 v.121
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Name: William Martel
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1931
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Home in 1940: Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Melville Street
House Number: 122
Inferred Residence in 1935: Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 3B
Attended School or College: Yes
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Yvonne Martel 32
William Martel 9

This William's father is Oscar Pike Martel.

William Ralph Martel

 in the New Hampshire, Marriage Records Index, 1637-1947

New Hampshire, Marriage Records Index, 1637-1947 No Image
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Name: William Ralph Martel
Marriage Date: 17 Jun 1944
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Place: Merrimack, Hillsborough, New Hampshire
Birth Date: abt 1923
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Father's name: Oscar Pike Martel
Mother's name: Evon Mary Beaureward
Spouse Name: Shirley Helen Duchaine
Spouse Age: 19
Spouse Gender: Female
Spouse Father's Name: Louis Duchaine
Spouse Mother's Name: Anna Catherine Monahane
FHL Film Number: 2293345

William E Mellen

 in the 1930 United States Federal Census

Name: William E Mellen
Birth Year: abt 1930
[abt 1929] 
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Home in 1930: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Cazenove Street
Ward of City: 5
Block: 20
House Number: 9
Dwelling Number: 5
Family Number: 10
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: No
Father's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Mother's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Mellen 26
Lillian Mellen 26
Frank Mellen 4
William E Mellen 0
Edward P Cunningham 55
John Eckloff 73
Joseph Hubbard 45
Alice Hubbard 51
Thomas Maloney 52
Herman Olson 37
Louise E Jenkins 53
Joseph Marsollo 28
Joseph Solazzi 23
Theodore J Christolefes 43
Find a grave for William Mellen here

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/106625597

Lillian Mellen

 in the Massachusetts, Death Index, 1901-1980

Name: Lillian Mellen
Death Date: 1930
Death Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Volume Number: 21
Page Number: 445
Index Volume Number: 85
Reference Number: F63.M363 v.85
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New Hampshire Births 1714-1904

Albert MacDonald Martel born Manchester,Hillsborough,New Hampshire

Ethnicity Canadian,Father Zeno Martel,Mother Eugenie Sevigny.

Death Cert.780143.

3 Answers

+5 votes
Please link a profile.

I'm finding info on his Dad, no luck on William so far.
by Herbert Tardy G2G6 Pilot (632k points)

 I have lots of information on Albert! I have none for William also my other Uncle Leo J Martel born 1903 was living in Winthrop with his Wife Ruth. In the 1930 Census along with Winthrop he was also listed at Fort Banks. No information after 1930 Census.

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Are you sure the William is William Martel? It was transcribed that way, but there appears to be the surname Mellen? associated with 7 month old William.
by Doug McCallum G2G6 Pilot (424k points)
The 1930 Census shows him as William Martel along with my Uncle Albert. The rest in the home are Sweeny's. I have tried lots of web sites and can not get any info on William he might have been born in 1929.

Albert passed away in 1959 at Jacques Cartier Barracks in Montreal South, no info on Burial
I looked at that image (https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=6224&h=15215486&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=UUZ303&_phstart=successSource) and it reads Mellen to me. Don't trust the transcription, look at the image. Anyway, if 7 months old in April of 1920, he would have been born in 1929. To say this is William Martel would need additional information to support that conclusion. Not saying it isn't, but you would need to prove it. In addition to the surname associated with young William, typically, but not always, parents get listed before their children but this is the other way around.

Could he have been born illegitimate and used a mother's maiden name at that point but later went by Martel?
The 1930 Census that I reviewed does not show Mellon only Martel &  Sweeny's. It also shows my other Uncle Leo J Martel and his wife Ruth also living in Winthrop, Suffolk.

I can not access your info as I do not have an account. What I briefly saw I believe showed a Taylor.

Not much else I can do.

Here's a link to the image at FamilySearch:  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9R74-9K4C?i=15&cc=1810731

It definitely looks like Mellen, William, just above Martel, Albert M.  FamilySearch accounts are free, and highly recommended if you don't already have one.

Another piece of info. The line for your uncle Albert is crossed out. He does appear on a different census page. There is an annotation that he is 'taken at Fort Banks'.

Where did you look at the 1930 census?
An unrelated question. Do you have Martel relatives in Worcester County? I have Martel 'cousins' in that area. They share my Caplette ancestry.
I just went on Familysearch and it shows John Sweeney 25,Mary Sweeney 33,Mary Sweeney 12, Agnes Sweeney 11, William Martel 0 USA, Albert MacDonald 34. I do not see a Mellon
Look at the image!
I believe that he was working as a Cook at Fort Banks. My other Uncle Leo J Martel was also shown at Fort Banks as well as Suffolk. Originally I was sent the 1930 Census through one of the US French websites.

I can not locate Leo J Martel anywhere after 1930. My Father and his mother moved to Saskatchewan, Canada after a Divorce. I never met or had any information on my Fathers siblings or family and he passed at age 45.

I live in Alberta, Canada.
I could have relatives in the eastern States as my grandfather Zenon immigrated into New Hampshire with his siblings Brothers & Sisters). His obit in 1950 showed a Charles Martel.

The transcription says Martel but that is not what the image says. Someone making the transcription made an assumption and "corrected" what they saw. It is possible that the original copy of the census said something different but its whereabouts would need to be fdetermined and documented. The official copies sent to Washington were transcribed from the enumerators master copy. Those originals sometimes still exist. 

I'll have to spend some time on my Martel cousins.  I had their connection wrong. They are connected in my LaFlash/LaFleche line and were mostly in Rhode Island.

+2 votes
Looking at that page again, Irving Streeter and Leo Joseph Martel are both at Fort Banks. Written in here and then crossed out and Head moved to the wife's line. Leo's family is on Taylor Street as are the Sweeney's. Not sure if that helps or not but does give some more info to fill in the gaps.
by Doug McCallum G2G6 Pilot (424k points)

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