Do you have this information on John Shelley?

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Does anyone have the parents of John Shelley, born at Peasenhall, Suffolk, England, 1833, and died at Sudbury, Suffolk, England, in 1899. He was buried at Sudbury on 19 May 1899. He is shown in the British National Census of 1881 as resident at Dennington, Suffolk, with his wife, Caroline ( Bloomfield ) Shelley and their children, and one granddaughter.
in Genealogy Help by Tim Perry G2G6 Mach 3 (31.7k points)

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No baptism easily visible. If you buy his marriage certificate that will give you the name of his father. You will then be able to search for potential marriages for his parents.
by Lynda Crackett G2G6 Pilot (630k points)
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 A  John Shelley, wife Caroline, and children were living in Dennington, New Road in 1881, He was an Ag lab  (I hope it is the right man)

The children were . 

Emma Shelley        17

Benjaiman Shelley        12

John Shelley        10

Ebenezer Shelley        7

Mary Ann Shelley        4

Herbert W. Shelley        2

I've only checked Emma and Herbert in the GRO index  but their mother's maiden name was Hart (not Bloomfield)

SHELLEY, EMMA            HART          GRO Reference: 1864  J Quarter in BLYTHING  Volume 04A  Page 685

SHELLEY, HERBERT  WILLIAM          HART          GRO Reference: 1879  M Quarter in HOXNE  Volume 04A  Page 63

Their probable marriage was in the last quarter of 1863.

GRO Suffolk  Volume:        4a Page:        1467

No proof but John, b Peasenhall c 1834 (his age changes each census) could be the illegitimate son of Sally Shelley  (or the son of an as yet unknown  brother  or sister of hers.)

Sally daughter Benjamin Shelley  and Ann Robinson

 born  12 Dec 1816

baptised 14 Feb 1819 

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5XD-1HC : 11 February 2018, Sally Shelley, 12 Dec 1816); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 918,502.

In the 1841 Census (all born Suffolk)

Benjamin Shelley        60

Anna Shelley        65

Benjamin Shelley Jr        25

Salley Shelley        20

John Shelley        7

William Godchild        15

Class: HO107; Piece: 1016; Book: 7; Civil Parish: Peasenhall; County: Suffolk; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 7; Page: 8; Line: 7;

In the 1851 census John is said to be a grandson of Benjamin (senior). Salley is not present

Benjamin Shelly        68  farmer 55 acres  born Tunstall Suffolk

Ann Shelly        78 wife born Creeting, Suffolk

Benjamin Shelly        40 son b Blaxall

John Shelly        16 Grandson born Peasenhall

Ann Knight        16 Granddaughter  house servant  born Blaxhall

1851 Census Peasenhall Class: HO107; Piece: 1803; Folio: 395; Page: 32;

In 1861  He's with his grandmother and Ann Knight(s) plus a visitor

Ann Shelley        90

John Shelley        25 (farm labourer)

Ann Knights        25

Richard Emmerson        67

In 1871  John aged 36 (b Peasenhall , Ag Lab)  married to  Caroline,  living in Peasenhall with Caroline and children, Emma, Benjamin and  John

by Helen Ford G2G6 Pilot (338k points)
edited by Helen Ford
Thanks Helen, yes I had the Benjamin line originally, but it leads to a brick wall, so I have retraced my steps and double checking each generation, taking particular care over the sources, and where they come from. Obviously, with a famous surname like Shelley, there has been considerable temptation to compile false records and fake genealogies, hence my cautious approach.
Hi, it's good to double check, we all make assumptions and its really hard to spot them.

I've just come across the Bloomfield/Blomfield/Blumfield Link

In the 1881 census for Tannington Suffolk

William Blomfield, 77 gardener Framlingham]

Harriett Blomfiekd wife 58 Ubbeston

Harrett Blomfield granddaughter 16

Eliza Shelly granddaughter 14 Peasenhall

 Birth registration: SHELLEY, ELIZA            HART   GRO Reference: 1866  M Quarter in BLYTHING  Volume 04A  Page 710

Marriage registration:

Name:        Harriet Hart        1851 Oct-Nov-Dec

Registration district:        Blything

Inferred County:        Suffolk

Volume:        13 Page:        1023

Records on Page:        

William Blumfield

Harriet Hart

(no connection in this generation to Percy. John's grandparents were farmers but 50 acres is a bare subsistence living so not moving in the same circles )
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I see whether I can find anything to help out
by Richard Shelley G2G6 Pilot (219k points)

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