Thanks for the fast reply.... this post was, originally, meant for someone in the Clifton group asking for help. I was replying to it asking for their information. We have our Clifton family back to the 1100's in Clifton England.... my direct ancestor was captured in the Civil war and afterwards stayed in KY where family still resides. Thank you Wayne for your kind offer to help. My intentions was only to help another looking for family also.