UPDATE: Naming and Birth date question for Johann Okon, Okun, Wittbrodt lineage 1900s

+2 votes

I have now uploaded more source documents. I am trying to clarify the lineage for Wittbrodt and Okun (Okon). The question I have is that the birth dates don't work for the actual birth date for Johann Okon, WIKITREE ID is Okon-18 , which is abt. 1843,  but this does not correlate with his offspring, daughter Marianna Okun Wittbrodt, Okon-17 my great-grandmother 

I've researched on Ancestry.com and other sources and am not able to clarify. Any assistance would be appreciated

Johann (John) Okon  1843–1907          Okon-18
BIRTH 31 MAY 1843 • Puck, Pomorskie, Poland (Prussia)

DEATH 01 NOV 1907 • Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, USA

2nd great-grandfather



Mary Marianna Okon  --  Okon-17


BIRTH 10 APR 1848 • Danzig, West Prussia

DEATH 10 OCT 1923 • Merritt Twp, Bay, Michigan, USA


Now uploaded, immigration documents. I also received a notice from the spouse and grandaughter of Albert Wittbrodt (Whitbrodt, Witbrodt) as follows, based in Ancestry.com where I did most of my original work before I switched to Wikitree, excerpted:

Jan 22, 2019

Hello, my name is [MK] and my wife is the granddaughter of Ed Whitbrodt who was the son of Albert Whitbrodt. We have the same wedding picture you show for Albert and Frances [DN: shown on Ancestry.com and now uploaded to Albert's profile on Wikitree]  ...have additional family information about his wife. The maiden name you use for Frances is one of many spellings (it's on their wedding certificate and was in the Bay City [Michigan] newspaper). However, the more common spelling on records is Slazinski (or a very similar form). Frances died in 1958 and is buried next to Albert in Bay City (findagrave ID 29404274). Her parents were Valentine (1839-1930) and Barbara Chlebowski (1845-1906). Here is the link to Valentine's Death Certificate   [behind a paywall] (https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=MichiganDeaths&indiv=try&h=2190814) which lists Mrs Albert Witbrodt as the informant. Here is the link to Barbara's Death Certificate (https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=MichiganDeaths&indiv=try&h=1111134) [also behind a paywall] which lists Valentine as the informant. The Whitbrodts seemed to randomly use Witbrodt, Wittbrodt, and Whitbrodt. I hope this helps and thank you for all the extraordinary work you have done on this family.  [I have contacted this person and asked for emailed copies. -- DN)

Any help clarifying who was born and died, and when, among Johann, son Johann and Joseph (who died in the Detroit area, 1907) would be greatly appreciated.


WikiTree profile: John Okon
in Genealogy Help by Deborah Nystrom G2G6 Mach 1 (16.1k points)
edited by Deborah Nystrom
You have Mariana's parents marriage in 1872.  Do you think that's a second marriage referenced in the 1900 census?
I am trying to puzzle out two possible marriages for Johan Okon / Okun

Spouse:  Mary Nagorska   BIRTH ABT 1825  Prussia    DEATH Unknown

Possible other spouse:  JULIANNA FRANCISKA SKWIERCZ Okon

BIRTH 1847 • East Prussia, Germany

DEATH 28 APR 1898 • Detroit, Wayne, Michigan, United States

1 Answer

+3 votes
while unable to completely look at the family trees on ancestry, they all mention he was born in 1825.

is there a way you can contact one of those familys?
by Living Jones G2G6 Mach 2 (20.5k points)

Useful to know this. Perhaps I have the incorrect Johann (John) Okon. I will check it out. Thanks!

~  Deb

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