Having trouble tracing back my 4th GGf from England..Can anybody help with a John Ward from Norfolk England?

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John Ward and his wife Sarah Ada Shepherd left England approx. 1835\36 ish…. For Quebec, Canada with I believe 3 sons all very young! I am having so much trouble breaking down this brick wall! It is very frustrating! I've never been to England, I have know clue how to figure out who his parents were? I don't have a clue .. I consider myself not to bad at finding a lot of records but this has me stumped! Its not the only one but its the surname I started out to trace in the first place before I got addicted to genealogy ....grrr! Can anybody help? Ward20443
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in Genealogy Help by Anthony Ward G2G2 (2.9k points)
retagged by David Selman
That's Ward-20443 John Ward! Was married in Little Fransham ,Norfolk,England 28 Oct 1828 ... Thanks for any help!

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County Norfolk
Place (with link) Little Fransham
Church name (with link) St Mary
Register type (with link) Parish Register
Register entry number 28
Marriage date 27 Oct 1828
Groom forename John
Groom surname WARD
Groom parish Little Fransham
Groom condition Bachelor
Bride forename Sarah
Bride surname SHEPPARD
Bride parish Little Fransham
Bride condition Spinster
Witness1 forename Henry
Witness1 surname ASKEW
Witness2 forename Elizabeth
Witness2 surname ASKEW
Notes He Signs X; She Signs X; Witness 1 Signs X; Witness 2 Signs X; Witness 3 Charles CROWFOOT

by Dave Welburn G2G6 Pilot (131k points)
selected by Robert Webb
Found on FreeReg -- https://www.freereg.org.uk/
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John Ward

England, Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts
Name John Ward
Event Type Christening
Event Date 13 Dec 1805
Event Place Upwell St. Peters, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Gender Male
Father's Name John Ward
Mother's Name Catharine
Citing this Record

"England, Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts, 1685-1941," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27H4-Y9H : 21 July 2017), John Ward, 13 Dec 1805; citing Christening, Upwell St. Peters, Norwich, Norfolk, England, Record Office, Central Library, Norwich; FHL microfilm 1,545,225.

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by David Selman G2G Astronaut (1.1m points)
edited by David Selman
Upwell is quite a distance from his marriage location of Little frampton, and from where his children were born in Swaffham!
Thanks, Ill have to check out all of these suggestions...
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For some reason I can't copy and paste today, joys of my tablet!

The most geographically likely John Ward out of a number who are the right age to have married in 1828 is this one:

Born: East Dereham 1st Dec 1803, baptised 3rd Dec 1803 to Henry Ward and Elizabeth Davy.

Little Fransham is in Dereham. All the others seem a little too far away..... However it is all speculation, you may struggle to find more unless you can dig up some more sources for eldest child Isaac.
by Lizzie Griffiths G2G6 Pilot (119k points)
Im going to have to check out a few suggestions.. His second sonI have tons of info on, his third son was my greatgrandfather x2 and have tons of info on him as well.. I cant find anything on their travels or exactly when and why they left England, but the next child in that line was born in Quebec... everything from that point wasnt to hard to discover.. well alot of it anyhow. thanks...
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Marriages can be misleading as they often take place in the bride's parish.

Sometimes the register will say if one party is an outsider.  But sometimes they lied.

I don't see any Sheppards in Little Fransham, but there's evidence of a Ward family.  A William Ward married Sarah Reeve there in 1800.  They had a Harriet, who died, and a Thomas, and another Harriet, with big gaps.  They could well have had other kids who weren't registered.

The 2nd Harriet married there, suggesting that they lived there the whole time.

A David Ward married a Powley there in 1824, but he could be a stray as his bride was local, there were loads of Powleys.  However, he stayed around to have kids, described as a husbandman.

Could be impossible to prove or disprove that John belonged to that family.
by Living Horace G2G6 Pilot (572k points)

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