From post-Roman Dijon to 20th Century England

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I love legends and mysteries, but this one has me stumped.  I encountered Alethea Winifrede Lloyd -- perfectly reasonable name -- but not what you would expect in Dijon, 1500 years ago in the wreckage of the Roman Empire. One Geni account gave her the name of a father and another Geni account had a man with the same name living in London in the 1800s.  Not much to go on, but that name belongs much more in London than Dijon in the 500's.  ;

So I cut Alethea loose from her Dijon relatives, who are also doubtful, and gave her a new estimated birth year of 1916.  And I orphaned her;  I've done all I can with her.  All the original information she used to have, undoubtedly fake, is in the footnotes.  

If someone out there can turn her into a real person, he or she should get a prize!
WikiTree profile: Alethea De Teissier
in Genealogy Help by Jack Day G2G6 Pilot (362k points)
Eddie, fantastic!  Now if you can just add all this to her profile, she'll be a real person.  And adopt her, she's yours!

Everything is answered except how she ended up in Dijon in the year 500, and in multiple popular genealogies that way, too!
Sorry, Jack, no.  I'll send you an email explaining why not.

Her birth was registered in Kensington, London, in 1916. Added the details to her profile. Also a birth reg for her possible brother: 

LLOYD, DAVID  PETER JOHN  HOWARD   Order
GRO Reference: 1914  S Quarter in WANTAGE  Volume 02C  Page 593 Order

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Best answer
      Name: Alethea Winifrede Lloyd
      Gender: Female
      Marriage Age: 23
      Event Type: Marriage
      Birth Year: abt 1913
      Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1936
      Marriage Place: Shipton Moyne, Gloucestershire, England
      Parish as it Appears: Shipton Moyne
      Search Photos: Search for 'Shipton Moyne' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
      Father: Francis Neville Lloyd
      Spouse: Roger Charles Lewis Kennaway

      Source Citation

      Gloucestershire Archives; Gloucester, England; Reference Numbers: P291 IN 1/15

      Source Information

      Ancestry.com. Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.

      by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (597k points)
      selected by Lynda Crackett
      +3 votes
          Name: Francis Neville Lloyd
          Regiment or Corps: Gds MG Regt
          Other Records: Search for 'Francis Neville Lloyd' in other WWI collections

           Information

          Ancestry.com. British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.

          Original data: Army Medal Office. WWI Medal Index Cards. In the care of The Western Front Association website.

          by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (597k points)
          +3 votes

            Name: Francis N Lloyd
            Spouse Surname: Howard
            Registration Year: 1912
            Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
            Registration district: Faversham
            Parishes for this Registration District: Search for Faversham in the London Times
            Inferred County: Kent
            Volume: 2a
            Page: 1363
            Records on Page:
            Name
            Winifrede A Howard
            Francis N Lloyd

            Source 

            FreeBMD. England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.

            by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (597k points)
            +3 votes

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                Name: Roger Charles L Kennaway
                Death Age: 85
                Birth Date: 10 Apr 1910
                Registration Date: Jun 1995
                Registration district: Truro
                Inferred County: Cornwall
                Register Number: A29D
                District and Subdistrict: 3701A

                Source Information

                Ancestry.com. England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc., 2007.

                by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (597k points)
                +3 votes
                    Name: Roger Charles Lewis Kennaway
                    Gender: Male
                    Marriage Age: 26
                    Event Type: Marriage
                    Birth Year: abt 1910
                    Marriage Date: 24 Jul 1936
                    Marriage Place: Shipton Moyne, Gloucestershire, England
                    Parish as it Appears: Shipton Moyne
                    Search Photos: Search for 'Shipton Moyne' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
                    Father: Charles Roger Kennaway
                    Spouse: Alethea Winifrede Lloyd

                    Source Citation

                    Gloucestershire Archives; Gloucester, England; Reference Numbers: P291 IN 1/15

                    Source Information

                    Ancestry.com. Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.

                    by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (597k points)
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                      Name: Charles Roger Kennaway
                      Gender: Male
                      Age: 27
                      Birth Year: abt 1880
                      Marriage Date: 15 Jan 1907
                      Marriage Place: Grayshott, St Luke, Surrey, England
                      Parish as it Appears: Grayshott
                      Search Photos: Search for 'Grayshott, St Luke' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
                      Father: Charles Lewis Kennaway
                      Spouse: Margaret Evelyn Everard
                      Reference Number: 1943/1/2

                      Source Information

                      Ancestry.com. Surrey, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1937 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.

                      Original data: Anglican Parish Registers. Woking, Surrey, England: Surrey History Centre.

                      by Eddie King G2G6 Pilot (597k points)
                      +2 votes
                      1911 census Francis Neville Lloyd, age 22, law student, nephew of Frank LLoyd, company director.

                      1891 Francis N Lloyd, 2, visitor in Newton Abbot with mother? Christina M Lloyd.

                      She was Cristina Evans of Bath married Herbert Lloyd.
                      by anonymous G2G6 Pilot (257k points)
                      edited by anonymous
                      +2 votes

                      Apparently an Alathea W Lloyd did marry Ivor G De Tessier, but it was in 1948, in Chelsea:

                      "England and Wales Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVDW-9CSG : 8 October 2014), Alethea W Lloyd and null, 1948; from “England & Wales Marriages, 1837-2005,” database, findmypast(http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing 1948, quarter 4, vol. 5C, p. 552, Chelsea, London, England, General Register Office, Southport, England.

                      by Isabelle Martin G2G6 Pilot (452k points)
                      Awesome!  Now we can put him back on the time machine, too!
                      Name: MS Alethea Winifrede De Tessier
                      Gender: Female
                      Age: 99
                      Birth Date: 1913
                      Death Date: 20 Jun 2012
                      Residence Place at Death: Castle Cary, Somerset, England
                      Postal Code District:

                      Ba7

                      Name:

                      Ivor Cd De Teissier
                      Registration Date: 1917
                      Registration district: Chesterton
                      Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
                      Re-registration Year: 1917
                      Mother's Maiden Name: Seligman
                      Volume Number: 3b
                      Page Number:

                      593

                      Captain GF de Tessier to Marry Miss Seligman at St Margarets Westminster on April 19th.  Daily Mirror - Thursday 30 March 1916 British Newspaper Archives

                      Name: Geoffrey F De Teissier
                      Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1916
                      Registration district: St George Hanover Square
                      Inferred County: London
                      Spouse: Selingman
                      Volume Number: 1a
                      Page Number: 1089

                      On the 30 Dec 1935 there is an application for American Citizenship from Katherine Tessier

                      The National Archives and Records Administration; Washington, D.C.; Petitions for Naturalization from the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, 1897-1944; Series: M1972; Roll: 980 Archive Roll Descriptions: (Roll 0980) Petition No· 256631 - Petition No· 256968 

                      Petition no 256690

                      Katherine Henrietta de Tessier,  born in New York on Dec. 3 1894.She was German.

                       Husband  was Geoffrey de Tessier  and was born Dec. 5 1888 in Cumberland

                      They were married April 17 1916 (so correct couple)

                      With them is Ivor, born July 2nd 1917 .All had been resident in Paris.

                      Katherine wrote  on the application, I hereby renounce my title of Baroness.

                      And here is a whole Tessier  family history, very interesting, a Huguenot family who became British Citizens but were given a French title by Louis XVIII

                      Ivor's father,  Geoffrey Fitzherbert de Tessier was the  6th and last  Baron http://www.epsomandewellhistoryexplorer.org.uk/DeTeissiers-Part3.html

                      (have added comment to Aletheas profile, sorry have to leave it there as must pack to go away for a week!)

                      +3 votes
                      She has been turned into a real person, (still be worked on) and has a very interesting ancestry too, which is still being worked on alongside:)

                      She is looking to have titled ancestors on every branch :)
                      by Wendy Sullivan G2G6 Pilot (145k points)

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