Do you want to make better use of your DNA in WikiTree?

Question

Here are two easy steps on your path to improving your use of your DNA in WikiTree:

1.  Add your AncestryDNA, Family Finder, or MyHeritageDNA results to GEDmatch then add your GEDmatch ID to your DNA Tests page in WikiTree.

2.  Click on your GEDmatch ID in WikiTree and then e-mail your matching cousins in GEDmatch and invite them to add their ancestry and GEDmatch ID to WikiTree.

What do you recommend to improve the above (or what would you add)?

Thanks and sincerely,

Comments

I’m trying to understand the work flow you employed. You found his matching segment with one tester on dodd’s page, then on the matching segment report found 3 other matches  and said, “The following GEDmatch IDs (which are not yet in WikiTree) also triangulate on that segment from 64 million to 74.29 million: A062419, A041020, and A959371.  I recommend you reach out to those relatives and ask them if they have any of these ancestors in their ancestry: https://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Dodd-717/5  “. You didn’t know they weren’t On wiki from the matching segment report as links don’t populate there, so how did you check?

I don’t come across profiles unknown to me that I match as he did with Dodd, i’m trying to understand if there is a convenient workflow I can  do to find new connections. I looked at one match from my one-to-many report with a higher amount of shared cmS and did find some triangulating segments one by one, then used wiki find searching on the gedmatch ID with no hits - not sure that eliminates possibility of their presence on wiki. In any case got no replies to my invitational queries to them. 

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To determine the other matches to Vincent and A825728 that were not on wikitree I used GEDmatch’s Matching Segment Search feature (for chromosome 14) which is under its Tier 1 utilities. I then used GEDmatch’s One-to-one utility to confirm his matches matched each other on that segment.

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yes, but that didn't tell you they weren't on wikitree already.

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In GEDmatch’s One-to-many match report they don’t have a Wiki link.  That indicates they are not in WikiTree.  

Adding a GEDmatch ID on the tester’s DNA Tests page automatically adds a Wiki (tree) link (in the GEDmatch One-to-many report) to the auDNA tester’s compact eight generation ancestral tree in WikiTree.

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Sorry to be tedious, but I believe those 3 additional matching segments you found weren't captured in the one-to-many, therefore leading to my question. I know in my example the matches I found nearby on that segment were not captured in the one-to-many.

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You said “matches I found nearby on that segment were not captured in the one-to-many.”. You need to pay attention to the overlapping on the same segment. Nearby matches are likely from a different ancestor.

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These segments did overlap and did triangulate - matched both. Since the one-to-many captures a certain subset, it's not surprising that they didn't appear.

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Not sure why I was identified as "anonymous" above

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Sorry but now I am lost in trying understand your question(s).  Sincerely,

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I know, it's because I'm trying to re-create your steps in search of a convenient work flow I might adapt. As closely as I can determine you took the following steps:

1. Looked at Dodd-718 page to see the test-takers. (and this is already a starting point I don't have, since I don't generally know any profiles that list my test, other than the ones I entered myself and thus already know.)

2. Selected A825728 on that list.

3. Found Vincent's profile, or maybe went to his test on the list there on Dodd-718 page, clicked on the test to do a one-to-one compare, finding the shared segment on chromosome 14.

4. Did a relationship finder from either Vincent's profile or Dodd-718 profile to reveal 4th cousin relationship (not sure this is needed, but it's information)

4. Did a matching segment search on Vincent's gedmatch, to find other triangulating segments.

5. Searched for those segments on Vincent's one-to-many report (this is the part where I thought the segments didn't appear there when I ran them earlier, although on running it again just now I did find them - in my own example matches, the triangulating segments weren't on the one to many so I had to search for them on wikitree) and determined there were no wiki links there.

Then invite them - and then you want to the next test, where you suggested he invite the match to make his profile public to determine the relationship. Was there a reason you didn't go on to repeat the search for matching segments there, to invite to wikitree.

Again, just trying to understand what I might do to make use of my DNA on wikitree, because right now it's now doing anything for me that I can see.

Answer 1

Well, that was fun.  Too bad I still have no idea how to understand DNA.  I only selected matches that had Wiki, but I need to study how to interpret data.

Comments

You likely will have more to gain if you invite your matching relatives in GEDmatch (without the Wiki link) to join WikiTree.

Answer 2

Are there different instructions for those of us on the new 23andMe chip who have to use genesis at GEDMatch? https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:DNATests&u=18623220

Comments

Hello Ted,

You could invite your matches at Genesis to add their ancestry to WikiTree.

GEDmatch is behind schedule for the merging of their two databases (GEDmatch and Genesis).  If and when the merge happens then it is expected a Wiki link will automatically show up on a One-to-many match in the merged database.

Sincerely,

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So it’s a known issue that clicking on my GEDMatch link in WikiTree doesn’t work, correct? But that what I’ve done so far is all I can do, on my own behalf?

Here’s the email I’m about to send to my genesis matches. Feedback welcome:

Hello!

I understand from Genesis GEDMatch that we are DNA-related (Kit: WH6613947 (Ted Sarvata) [23andMe]). One way we can figure out how, and how you can participate in one human family tree, is by you adding yourself (and GEDMatch ID) to WikiTree, along with your ancestry, if you haven’t already.

Here’s my compact family tree, as an example: https://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Ernst-1231/5

Please let me know if you need help. I’m happy to get you started.

Thanks,

Ted

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Yes, it is a known issue that your Genesis ID currently does not link to anything.

Thank you for being willing to contact your matching DNA cousins.  At some  point they need to be informed that one goal is for them to CONNECT to the shared ancestry they have with you in WikiTree.  As you may know, a number of new users unfortunately upload their GEDCOM without paying enough attention.  The result is that their GEDCOM may include duplicates of your ancestors already in WikiTree.

Sincerely,

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Ah, great. I’ve updated that part of the note. Other comments welcome!

Hello!

I understand from Genesis GEDMatch that we are DNA-related (Kit: WH6613947 (Ted Sarvata) [23andMe]). One way we can figure out how, and how you can participate in one human family tree, is by you adding yourself (and GEDMatch ID) to WikiTree, along with your ancestry, those that haven’t already been added.

Here’s my compact family tree, as an example: https://www.wikitree.com/treewidget/Ernst-1231/5

Please let me know if you need help. I’m happy to get you started.

Thanks,

Ted

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