confused on birth

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I have Jane Redfern( Also known as Josie) born about 1876, she married Roger Thomas Wilmot in 1898 in Derbyshire

I am confused about where she was living in 1881 and 1891 as her birthplace is in Little Hay, Derbyshire in 1901 and Erdington, Warwickshire in 1911 which makes it difficult for me
WikiTree profile: Josie Wilmot
in Genealogy Help by Steph Meredith G2G6 Mach 8 (82.1k points)
retagged by Ellen Smith
Could Roger have had two wives, Jane and Josie?
I had checked for Roger marrying Josie and nothing has come up, I also checked the daughter I have added that gave her mothers maiden name as Redfern, Jane is the only one coming up :)
1881 census has a Jane Redfern born Little Hay Staffordshire not Derbyshire.

Flying due south from Lichfield (Staffs) towards Birmingham, Little Hay is 4 miles, Sutton Coldfield (Warks) is 8 miles, Erdington is 10 miles.

Little Hay was a hamlet in Shenstone parish, which was in Lichfield registration district.

There's a birth in that district in q4 1874.  Nothing else at all close.  She's probably the Jane in the 1881 census.

Whether she's Josie from Erdington, well that still takes a bit of explaining.  Maybe Josie wasn't really a proper legal wife.  Doesn't matter much as the mother's maiden name is Redfern on all 4 kids.

Haven't checked 1891.  Really you need the father's name on the marriage cert to pick the birth.
Might be worth looking to see if the Jane that RJ found has a sister Josephine. It can happen that a man marries the sister of his first wife.
Good point Lynda and thank you RJ, thats what my grandad done lol
I have just had a quick look for a Josephine and the only one coming up on free BMD was born in 1853 in Chorlton
I have a couple of folks in my tree who did that Stephanie. Makes it interesting to figure out who the kids belong to. Dates can give a good indication, but sometimes it can only be concluded using the certificates.
I have a family member through marriage who had 20 children which has really frustrated me, I have 16 of them he married my great aunt but was playing the field so to speak with her sister between wales and somerset

Great Fun
Stephanie:  Go to Ancestry.com, Go too all records,put in last name Wilmot,Father Roger Thomas Wilmot,mother Redfern.Births in England

are listed under mothers maiden name.You may pick up children.

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Stephanie: I have seen your problem before.You could be seeing place birth

in one place,Baptised in another place.Since she is Catholic (Manchester Diocese.(Catholic)

.Check Manchester diocese as too the place she was

baptised.In 1939 Register,shows her birth August 26 1875.Working as a Domestic,widowed.Now,often,this date could be her birth date or Baptism date.
by Wayne Morgan G2G6 Pilot (917k points)
Thank you Wayne
The birth date in the 1939 register is the actual birth date, not the baptism date Wayne.
Manchester Diocese is Church of England.
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So, I've had a look at the actual image of the 1911 census on findmypast.com and the name is clearly Jane, not Josie. Josie is the result of a mistranscription.
by Deb Durham G2G Astronaut (1.0m points)
thank you Debs I have got another Redfern line so hopefully I can join them up together
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Roger Wilmot married Jane 4th Quarter 1898,Burton Upon Trent

Staffordshire.
by Wayne Morgan G2G6 Pilot (917k points)

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