Sources for John Tolleson, b. abt 1650, Bishops, Stratford, Hertfordshire, Englan

Question

This profile is unsourced and wondering if I could get some help from someone. I’m having a problem accessing Family Search today. Internal problem here, I think.

Could someone run a check for records on this fella?

Oops. Family Search just came up and no records.

Many thanks!

Comments

Might the actual location be Bishop's Stortford?

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I dunno. On Ancestry, every single record of John is “Ancestry Family Trees.” So, no help there. I don’t know where this person came from. I do remember that he showed up in the 90s as I have him unsourced in my database, so he’s been around awhile. I’m not so sure he ever existed. His son, Erasmus, has a profile on WikiTree. I’m betting that a John showed up here coming from old web genealogies somewhere else.

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1800 census, Pendleton District, SC, has John’s son Erasmus as Tollison, not Tolleson.

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Oops! That’s John’s grandson, Erasmus. That name shows up all over.

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In the United States at least, the Tolleson and Tollison families migrating out of South Carolina are one and the same family originally. For the most part it seems the variant Tollerson in the US is also the same family. If there is evidence to the contrary, please reply. It seems that in the early days of the census, clerical errors were more common than not.

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Yep, that is where I have pegged my ancestral family of Tollesons... in South Carolina, then descendants up to what is now Transylvania County, North Carolina.

Answer 1

This could be a possibility. Baptism for John Tolson in 1649 at Bishop's Stortford. Parents: John and Ann.

Comments

Date is close, and the name of the place would be a correction but close p, too. I’ll note this in my database until I’m ready to tackle the profile pending permission to make some changes. THANK YOU, LYNDA!

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Since the place name on the profile does not seem to exist I think this one looks like a reasonable guess for what they were trying to say 

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Now to prove that John was the father of the colonist Erasmus (E. is on the Southern pioneers Project, but his birth date is a little late for this John to be the father, 1710. Not impossible, but....)

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Good luck. You might need to back up a couple of generations and do some basic checks before you work further up. Whoever worked on Erasmus seems to have given him a wife who was popping out offspring when she was about 70.

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And unfortunately the only source on the profile for Erasmus so far is someone's recollections about 200 years later.

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And.... only one source for his son of the same name... so far. A real puzzler.

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Looks like you could start work on the profile already.  It is Open, and the PM hasn't been on since 2011.  Or are you working through the Unresponsive Profile Manager process?

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The one I requested the correction seemed to be active to me with an update that was recent. Let me look up the profile ID and post it....

Oh, wait. I have a James Thomas Gibson that I manage. The suggestion report was for a James Thomas Gibson, Sr., who was not the father of mine. Would that be the reason?

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Did you post that last comment on the wrong thread Pip? It looks as though it belongs on your question about suggestion reports rather than this one.

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Oh, shoot. I answer another comment from another question I asked in Tech. Sorry, John. I get it. I just might do that.

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Working on a phone  somehow missed this answer and went searching  (didn't scroll down?)

As can't c and p on G2G .I added the Bishops Stortford baptism plus bapt of 2 possible siblings on profile as a research note.

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Thanks Helen.

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Thank you so much, Helen.