Where can I source Birth Records Quebec 1866?

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I have conflicting info for Adeline (Delina) Jean.  Her marriage registration indicates mother as Henriette Cloutier (if I am translating correctly) but all other info I checked eg Census have  Alexandrienne Cloutier listed as spouse of her father Toussaint Jean.  I did find one basic entry for a marriage between Henriette and Toussaint but was unable to fully access the record.  Any help appreciated
WikiTree profile: Délina Corneau
in Genealogy Help by Dierdre Bell G2G4 (4.6k points)
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the mother gets called all sorts of things, Adrienne, Henriette, Alexandrine, Alexandrienne, Aurélienne, all on marriages of her children.  Baptism indexing stops at 1860 for this family, in Ste-Agnès-de-Charlevoix, which is on the North coast near La Malbaie https://www.genealogiequebec.com/Membership/LAFRANCE/acte/5995252 map from Drouin institute.  Your girl's baptism was done on 23 Dec 1866, she is named Marie Délina, daughter of Toussaint Jean, farmer, and of Adrienne Cloutier, of Les Éboulements;  godfather Augustin Bouchard, ''cultivateur'', godmother Pétronille Perron, wife of ''Lalathiel'' (???) Gauthier   https://www.genealogiequebec.com/Membership/LAFRANCE/img/tag/d1p_8260881.jpg baptism image Drouin institute (membership required)

The family was on the North coast originally, then moved to St-Octave-de-Métis on the opposite coast in the Gaspé peninsula, and later they moved to Hull and then Ottawa.  There are 8 marriages for their children that I find in Drouin.

Note that the place name for your girl's marriage should not include Matane, that is a separate city, and is not in fact a ''county'' as used elsewhere, but an electoral riding, subject to periodic change.

Toussaint Jean, son of François Jean (deceased) and of Marie Lachance,  married Adrienne Cloutier, minor daughter of Joseph Cloutier and Marie Tremblay, on 4 Feb 1856 in Les Éboulements  https://www.genealogiequebec.com/Membership/LAFRANCE/acte/4815417  , all parties recorded as residents of St-Irénée.  (The Cloutier/Tremblay lineage will have to be very carefully verified, those are among the most common names found here, lots and lots of duplication possible)

Take a look in Québécois project, there are guidelines for place names there that cover more than just early time period.  Before 1867 you would use Bas-Canada for anything in this province, back to 1794, etc.  No ''county'' names should be entered, since they're just not that.

Edit:  Note that there are no such things as ''middle names''  in French, they are ALL given names.

by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (389k points)
selected by Cindy Cooper
Indexing varies depending on which site you use.  BMS 2000 has 13 baptisms listed for the couple, with the last occurring in Saint-Octave-de-Métis in 1882.

That said, BMS 2000 doesn't cover every parish, and though some of the BMS entries link directly to the church copies on FamilySearch, others do not (most of the entries for this family have direct links).

I hear you, not going to get subscription for BMS2000, one subscription is enough for me.  wink

Thank you so much for this information.  I must admit I'm struggling with the Canadian side of the family so all help is very much appreciated.
You will come to appreciate the good resources that are available for Quebec.  I find those much easier to work with than any of the other areas, including the US, that I use.  Feel free to ask me any time, I am happy to use my paid sources to research for others.
Thank you Cindy.  I do have a question on profiles that I have hit a brick wall with.  Should I make a note on those particular profiles that no more info is available?
You would want to add a heading line above the biography header

== Research Notes ==

Then describe where you've looked and what you've found (or not).  You can put ~~~ (which is 4 tildes) and your name and date will show after you save it - won't show in the preview.

You can also post difficult situations on G2G and people will jump in to help.  Put the Quebec tag on it.   Also feel free to message me or post on my profile and I will look.
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The parish registers for the place you list for her marriage are available at FamilySearch at https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/618948?availability=Family%20History%20Library but they are not indexed, just digitized. You will have to search through them. The one I gave the link for ends in 1884. Use the catalog "Subjects Link" to get to additional registers.
by Doug McCallum G2G6 Pilot (424k points)

Thank you Doug.  Time to brush up on my French methinks  smiley

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Below is a copy of Marie Délina's baptism.  Her mother's listed name (Andrienne) is actually quite close to the spelling on the marriage act (Adrienne).  Unfortunately, given names do switch from time to time in the records during this period, for various reasons.  Reconstructing the family relationships, especially comparing against sibling baptisms and census records, usually ensures that the couple is correctly identified.

"Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99Q-3PQ?cc=1321742&wc=9RLN-K6J%3A21072101%2C21072102%2C13674203 : 16 July 2014), Saint-Irénée > Saint-Irénée > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1866-1876 > image 10 of 137; Archives Nationales du Quebec (National Archives of Quebec), Montreal.

by Greg Lavoie G2G6 Pilot (316k points)
Thanks Greg.  This is the document I referenced originally so was confused when I found her marriage registration with Henriette as mother.  Could be a different marriage I guess.
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not sure if this will help you as the index is not fully complete yet, but is an index Quebec Baptisms, 1851-1915

https://www.originis.ca/bapteme_province_quebec_index.html
by Arora Anonymous G2G6 Pilot (111k points)
Thank you Arora - what a fabulous list!!!  Will work my way through it.

your welcomewink

nice one Arora, and no membership required either.  laugh

Danielle, I figure its good for researching purposes, I know for me sometimes I find absolutely nothing for some of my ancestors using FHL, and I have to make time to go back into Canada Archives in different places, this one just stumbled on while I was doing random spellings of names, so if it is helpful, then I'm happy.smiley

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