Is William Thorne (b. 1642, Lynn, Mass.) attached to the correct parents?

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William Thorne (b. 1642, Lynn, Massachusetts) is currently listed as son of William Thorne (Thorne-28) and Sarah Denton, but this doesn't make much sense to me.   The biography for William Thorne (Thorne-121) (husband of  Susannah Booth) claims William Thorne (b. 1642) is their son.  That seems to make more sense.  My question is whether William Thorne (b. 1642) should be attached as son of Thorne-121 instead of Thorne-28?

P.S.  Also, should his two Winifred wives be merged, and if so was her maiden name Livingston or Linnington?
WikiTree profile: William Thorne
in Genealogy Help by Kenneth Kinman G2G6 Mach 4 (49.2k points)

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Yes he should be attached to the other couple. NYGBR 92:178 "Early History of the Thorne Family of Long Island" (1961) says her name was Winifred _____ Search for Winifred Linington and Winifred Livingston in NYGBR show no hits,  Check the comment on https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Linnington-3 maybe Daphne can help
by Anne B G2G Astronaut (1m points)
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I agree, William Jr. Thorne-29 should be should be son of William Thorne-121 and wife Susannah. I think I might be responsible for putting him with  the other couple that includes Sarah Denton, perhaps following a secondary source that had this misidentification.

However, I am wondering whether https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Thorne-28 (the current father) should exist at all. I have on my near-ish term to-do list to put William Jr. in the right place and figure out what the deal is with this other William Thorne. Somebody had to be the father of Mary Thorne who married Benjamin Mills as per Dedham records ( https://books.google.com/books?id=LMoMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=mary+thorne ). Was there really another William Thorne, or is it one person? The note on his profile, from Savage, says "He was prob. liv. at Lynn, when freem. 2 May 1638, and Lewis mades him rem. to L. I. 1642." That sounds like Thorne-121

As for his wife Winifred -- I wrote the rather confusing bio in https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Linnington-21 when I was still relatively new to genealogy. I think it is worth revisiting it. I need to reactivate my NYGBS membership... for the time being, though, I hope it explains why the family we're talking about here is Linnington, not Livingston.

At the very least, references to Livingston (as opposed to Linnington) don't belong with the wife of Thorne-29. It looks like the only purpose being served by Winifred Livingston-570 and her father Henry Livingston-1234 is in their capacity as wife and father in law of Thorne-29, so they should probably be merged into Linnington-21 and Linnington-3

by Daphne Maddox G2G6 Mach 1 (14.3k points)
edited by Daphne Maddox

Ok, I re-activated my NYGBS account... there is solid evidence presented by Thorn Dickinson in "Early History of the Thorne Family of Long Island" (NYGBR 93:89-91) that Henry Linnington and wife Catherine were the parents of the wife of William Thorne III (William, William), rather than of his mother, the wife of William II, and that her name was Catherine (Linnington) Thorne.

This explains the problem I found and documented in Winifred Linnington-21 regarding the dates -- that her parents seem to have been married too late to have a daughter who was the wife of William II.

I will develop and enter some documentation in the relevant profiles. There is no evidence that Henry had a daughter Winifred at all, so I will plan to change the name of his daughter to Catherine and assign her to the correct husband, etc.

Hi Kenneth, Anne,

I have proposed changes from the Henry Linington perspective in a new G2G thread. The proposal would correct the relationship between the Liningtons and the Thornes, and establish a new profile for Winifred Unknown.

Next I will tackle the Thornes relationships to each other....

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