Free space pages are not allowed to be transcluded on other pages.
We need to check them and see if some of them needs to be converted to a template.
Space pages are used 12695 times. For pages with a lot of usage, I will program EditBOT to correct the usages.
4330: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:ArkivDigital Too complex for External Link Template
2.553 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Kingsman_ONS Candidate for External Link Template
329 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Owen_County_Cousins Static page
454 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Lemi_syntyneet_1896-1910 Static page Space:Lemi has a few variations similar to Space:Henkikirja.
2000+ https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Henkikirja_Viipuri_1900 Static page Space:Henkikirja has a few variations similar to Space:Lemi.
110 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:The_Burritt_Family_in_America Maybe a candidate for External Link Template
For this I will not make any processing.
73 SPACE:LEMI RIPPILAPSET 1808-1847
68 SPACE:PEDIGREES FROM THE PLEA ROLLS 1200 TO 1500
66 SPACE:LEMI KUULUTETUT 1847-1879
65 SPACE:NELSON-3486 SOURCE TO-DO
63 SPACE:OCLC-608752607
63 SPACE:PIERPONT-94 Y-DNA
57 SPACE:BOOKLET: LAZARUS WEBB AND FAMILY
51 SPACE:OCLC-3530764
And pages with less than 50 usages will be added to 843 error.
This are just my quick ideas. owners of the pages should come forward and explain the usage and we will see what to do.
Go for it, Jamie
Info for all: you can change
{{Space:Page}}
to
{{subst:Space:Page}}
And it will perform one time transclusion/substitution on save.
So it will replace {{}} with the text on the page.
For some reason I am getting a request to make my Name Study page private, which of course makes it less useful.
I notice the following links on the main page which may be the reason I was referred to this G2G question.
These appear to be fine usages of the templates, are they no longer acceptable?
Lance,
Yesterday the Walker Name Study page was changed and I have started taking steps to correct that situation. To protect the work of our project I suggests that:
1. The PRIVACY level for Walker Name Study and all it's subprojects should be set to PRIVATE. For details see the g2g post:
https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/664105/end-of-free-space-page-used-as-templates?show=664528#c664528
2. Therefore I am requesting to be on the trusted list (co-manager, preferred) for all pages of "Walker Name Study" subprojects.
Thank you,
Comments and suggestions are welcomed.
Pat - coordinator of Walker Name Study
This message is from Pat Credit (ftr33@centurylink.net). Click here for their WikiTree profile: https://www.WikiTree.com/wiki/Fuller-5853
I meant to say PUBLIC and have sent corrections to everyone. Now the Entire page is set to unlisted and only one person can see it.
See this new g2g
so this page also has what you are talking about,right? https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Durbin_and_Logsdon_Genealogy_With_Related_Families_1626_-_1991
On a profile the citation looks like:
And the link is to the freespace page. I just want to be clear on this before I start changing things.
A page is defined as a template by being transcluded into another page. So if there's a page that says {{Space:Blah}}, which means "display the contents of Blah here", then Space:Blah is a template.
This page
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Speas-53
is doing that with Owen County Cousins (under Sources, near the bottom).
(We can't see the content of the Space page, but it's playing games with <onlyinclude> and <noinclude> tags so that what's transcluded is different from what you see. However, the offence isn't what's on the page, it's calling the page in double curly brackets)
Transclusion is the inclusion of part or all of an electronic document into one or more other documents by hypertext reference.
Ellen explains it better, below.
Phew! Thanks for that! I can go to bed now and dream sweet dreams...
Well, anbody couldn't actually edit my freespace page - because they're green-locked.
I suppose that's the price we pay for having a collaborative site with millions of open profiles. A vandal could come along at any time.
Aleš, Has this change been discussed elsewhere on G2G (and I missed it)? Are there technical reasons this change is being implemented? Transclusion of free-space pages is one of many great features of WikiTree.
I think I've used it twice:
I know there are other ways of doing these things, but they all seem to be more difficult or just cumbersome.
(I'm aware of {{subst:Space:Page}}, but that requires manually updating every occurrence when the substitute page changes. And, AFAIK, there is no way to keep track where the substitution has been used.)
This was decided long before I came to wikitree. It just wasn't enforced in the past. Now we have the tools to prevent it's usage.
As I understand, the main reasons are:
1.) I checked the Category:Source and it is the only page using Space:Category-Source, so why the need for transclusion.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Space:Category-Source
We also have whole hierarchy https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Genealogy_Help that include Genealogy Resources for each country. So why the duplication. I didn't really study what you have on pages but at a first glance it is the same thing.
Also at this point only profiles are being checked. It seems we will have to do categories as well at some point.
Why use transclusion on Category:Source? To add a "Trusted List", so me (and anyone else) can automatically be notified when the page is changed. Can't do that in a Category page without transclusion. Obviously, this is not foolproof, but it helps.
The subject of using Categories for sources is best left for another discussion, and has nothing to do with transclusion.
Yes, using Subst for those page will work for me. Thanks.
I suggest making https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:External_Link_Templates which is exactly what it is. I can create it for you. I would name it Template:Kingsman_ONS And I would change it a bit. Currently only half of the link is in template and you use 2 parameters, but only one is needed. I would make it as
<includeonly>[http://kingsman.one-name.net/{{{1}}} Kingsman Family Lines]</includeonly>
so it would be a static text on the link and you can add remaining text after the template.
Current usage would change from
{{Space:Kingsman ONS|dna/|scotland.html}} Kingsman/Kingsmill DNA project webpage]
{{Kingsman ONS|dna/scotland.html}} Kingsman/Kingsmill DNA project webpage