Would you help add to Soden families research and connect their locations?

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The Soden surname is uncommon as are its variants Sodan, Sodin and Sodon (and perhaps others). While many Soden names appear to the northwest of London, England (Warwickshire and surrounding West Midlands region) and in Ireland, we seek help connecting these families as well as those that emigrated to other countries, primarily America, Australia, New Zealand. We also seek to connect the Soden families within the United States either to each other or their earlier immigrant families.

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in The Tree House by Glenn Soden G2G5 (5.4k points)
I would be happy to help people researching the surname Soden in any way I can (please keep in mind that I am 73yrs old and not too techno minded). I have a good memory and time to research the Soden tree. Soden is my husband's paternal surname and I have researched this tree back to 1720s - living in East Haddon, Northamptonshire.

Pamela Soden

New Zealand

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I'm willing to help as far as I'm able. My wife was a Soden, a descendant of a family of Sodens who are first recorded (1723) in the village of East Haddon, Northamptonshire, England, and who became itinerant "navvies", working first on canal construction and later on railways.

It is said that the Soden clan were originally from Bad Soden in the Hesse region of Germany, and that they came to the UK as mercenary soldiers in Oliver Cromwell's New Model Army of the English Civil War. I can offer no documented evidence for that. However, East Haddon is a short walk away from Holdenby (Holmby) House, where Charles I was held under house arrest by Cromwell's troops. I conjecture, again without evidence, that my wifes ancestors might descend from a German soldier stationed at Holdenby in 1647.
by Dave Seccull G2G6 (7.7k points)
Thank you Dave. Any assist is welcome. I would be pleased to add you to the project. The location guidance you provided in your answer is of value. I've found it fascinating that so many Sodens resided in the "shires" of England outside London. It is interesting that some families stayed in place for generations while there were family emigrants who sought another location (in many cases due to the lack of land, being the younger to an older sibling designated to receive the family land).

To add to Dave's answer they started travelling, his wife's and my ancestors, between the 1780s and 1810s. 

P.S. Have you seen this https://www.geni.com/discussions/177062, someone says his name was Samuel John.

Thank you for adding to the dialogue. Interesting John might have dropped the primary name Samuel. Intriguing so many Sodens worldwide have the same first names. Naming patterns were often in use, which might help research. (early Soden lines in the States in New Jersey and elsewhere in the 1700s were primarily Thomas, John, William, Jacob and some Samuels or Lemuels), which might suggest earlier immigrant origins.
Thank you Dave.. I too, have heard that the Sodens may have originated from Germany. My son Carl Soden stayed in a town in Germany in the Hesse region called 'Bad Soden'. I have been researching Oliver Cromwell and it appears in some documents that soldiers were given land in lieu of pay (wages) as no money was left after funding fighting etc.

I have also been reading documents in 'Book of Soden' about the Sodens in Sligo, Ireland. Interesting but so far I have not as yet, found a connection to the East Haddon, Northamptonshire Sodens.

Pamela Soden
You're right, Pamela, Cromwell did grant land to his soldiers. This was especially the case in Ireland, where after wreaking some havoc for the native Irish, he attempted to embed a more compliant population by settling any of his army who were willing to stay there. This is almost certainly the origin of the considerable number of Sodens in Ireland today. (There were many other names among the settlers, of course!)

As Glenn pointed out, The English branches of the Soden clan sprang up predominantly in the Midland counties, with many in Warwickshire and Northamptonshire. I have wondered if these Soden families could have descended from Hessian mercenaries of the English Civil War era. Two significant battles, at Edge Hill in Warwickshire and Naseby in Northamptonshire, must have resulted in hundreds of non-fatal casualties who would have been left behind by their armies to recover from their injuries - this was a very mobile war. They would have been dependent upon the goodwill of the local people, although perhaps protected by a small military group, and would likely have found new friends. Some may no longer have been fit for military service, or may have decided to retire from soldiering. If there were any Sodens among this number, after several years of fighting in a foreign land, Hesse must have seemed far, far away.
Hi Dave and others interested in Soden family trees:

I have just completed reading the Bishops Transcripts from 1710 for East Haddon. Difficult to read at times due to  handwriting - there is no mention of BMD of the name Soden until 1748 with the marriage of John Soden to Ann Hodgkins. First child John Soden 1749 and second child son Richard Soden 1752...I can only conclude that John Soden born 1723 in East Haddon was born elsewhere and relocated to East Haddon before marriage. Am I right in assume this from the Bishops Transcripts? All subsequent Sodens in East Haddon are descendants of the sons John and Richard. I will check births of Sodens around 1700s in nearby counties/villages.  Hopefully someone has a link to Sodens born 1700s which in turn links to my Soden tree.

Pamela Soden
Dave and Pamela, appreciate your sharing and insights regarding early Soden family history. Efforts to research Soden roots in the 1700s and prior should help connect. DNA is enabling efforts to identify 5th to 8th cousins. That advancement enabled me to discover an Irish Soden, James Soden, b. 1800 of Sligo, Ireland, whose family appears to have originated from England, as a possible family to explore for further earlier origins, even as my Sodens appear to have been in America at least since the 1720s. As we identify earliest Soden origins perhaps we can find some common Soden family connections.
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Will help as far as I am able. Hope we can learn more of our elusive forebarers!
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Definitely willing to help! Trying to find out more about https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Soden-340 (my parents, also avid genealogists, seem to think that the New York Soden family is Katherine/my second great grandma’s family)

by Liz Marshall G2G6 Pilot (111k points)
In reply to your comment Liz - I found a photo of Gerald Soden born 1948 in Pennsylvania, USA that has a remarkable likeness to my grandson born 2005 in New Zealand. I have traced the direct paternal line of my husband's Soden ancestors back to 1720s in East Haddon, Northamptonshire. Gerald Soden could possibly be a cousin to my husband (several times removed) who was born in Hertfordshire, UK in 1944. I am happy to share my research.

Pamela Soden

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