John M. Simmons possibly had a second family in Texas. Can you help me find out? He had children and disappeared

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Can you give us a bit more to go on, Sue? Date and place of birth? Where was his first family located?
Born in Georgia, maybe around 1818.  Listed on Tyler,County Texas Census 1850 with Laban, Penelope and Mary Pugh.  He had children with Mary.  According to DNA, I match a John M. Simmons that has a spouse Hercilla Smyth—?.  I think they might be the same person with two different families.

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Hello, Sue,

The John M Simmons located in Texas in 1950 married to Mary is not the same John M Simmons.

Your John was born in Louisiana and living in Mississippi in 1850 with Hercilla and their daughter, Mary Jane.

John M Simmons

United States Census, 1850

Name John M Simmons
Event Type Census
Event Year 1850
Event Place Claiborne county, part of, Claiborne, Mississippi, United States
Gender Male
Age 32
Race White
Birth Year (Estimated) 1818
Birthplace Louisiana
House Number 585

Household

Role

Sex

Age

Birthplace

John M Simmons M 32 Louisiana
Hercilla Simmons F 28 Mississippi
Mary Jane Simmons F 0 Mississippi

Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4LH-4ZY : 12 April 2016), John M Simmons, Claiborne county, part of, Claiborne, Mississippi, United States; citing family 583, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

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United States Census, 1850

by Deb Durham G2G Astronaut (1.0m points)
selected by Carolyn Martin

He married Hercilla Baldridge in Claiborne County, Mississippi.

John M. Simmons

Mississippi Marriages
Name John M. Simmons
Spouse's Name Hersilla Baldridge
Event Date 11 Oct 1848
Event Place Claiborne,Mississippi
Citing this Record

"Mississippi Marriages, 1800-1911," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V2ZJ-4FT : 10 February 2018), John M. Simmons and Hersilla Baldridge, 11 Oct 1848; citing Claiborne,Mississippi; FHL microfilm 875,443.

Thanks for the star, Carolyn. blush

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John M. Simmons [[Simmons-5696|John Simmons]] married to Hercilla Baldridge was born in Louisiana, married in Mississippi in 1848, fathered six children with her between 1849 and 1864.  They were my 2nd great-grandparents.  He died before 1866.  I am still searching for his parents, he’s one of my brick walls.
by Kathie Forbes G2G6 Pilot (262k points)
edited by Kathie Forbes
DNA match through gedmatch.com to this Simmons group.  Also to the Parks.  Trying to unravel this puzzle.  

Sue
We must be related. My dad’s Gedmatch # is T248947, Joe B. Parks.
It's possible he is associated with the Cole Creek Simmons Family of Jefferson and Adams County Mississippi- they were on both sides of the river. [[Simmons-1298 | James Simmons Sr.]]

When all else fails you may want to contact Peggy Hill of the Simmons Information Exchange
Thanks for the suggestions, I think he must be part of that group although can’t pinpoint him.  Peggy was baffled, too.  I keep hoping someone will pop up and solve the mystery.
Mine comes with a union of Youngblood/Parks
The only Parks/Youngblood marriage I know of is my grandparents, James Allen Parks and Mary Florence Youngblood.  My grandmother was the granddaughter of Hercilla Simmons.
Yes that is where my DNA connection comes in to your Dad. I will have to look back and see which Simmons married a Youngblood.  I think there were two.  We have a picture of John Simmons ,we think.  My cousin Oscar believed it to be.
My grandmother’s other grandmother was named Emeline Simmons.  She was born in Georgia and married Jacob Reese Youngblood.  She was the daughter of a man named Solomon Simmons, no known connection to the family of John M. Simmons.  Emeline’s siblings seem to have stayed in Georgia and Alabama.
Martha Jane Simmons married Benjamin F. Youngblood
Yes, they are my great-grandparents.
[[Simmons-2940 | Solomon S. Simmons]]
Yes, those are my other Simmons ancestors.  My great-grandfather’s wife was a Simmons and his mother was a Simmons but if there’s any connection it was back in the 1700’s.
My ancestor, John Simmons, was only in Texas from about 1850 until the war started.  Several of his children were born in Mississippi. He did not return after the war.  My great grandfather Asa Simmons was born in Texas.  His mother Mary Pugh Simmons lived with her mother Patience Parker Pugh in Jacksonville, Texas.
Several on-line tres, although undocumented, say that your John Simmons was born in Georgia about 1830, so if that’s the case he might be connected to Emeline Simmons.
Looking back on my Simmons notebook and find this information

1860 Tyler County Texas. John Simmons-29-Georgia,  Mary-29-Alabama,  PF(Frances)-3-Mississippi,  LAJ(Lasana)-5-Mississippi, Asa-Texas

Mary Pugh Simmons-Chickasaw County Mississippi-1850-17

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