Yes I had wondered about that, and saw that Sarah Harper Lloyd died in 1771which according to the family Bible is when John Lloyd moved from Pennsylvania to Virginia (age3). As I also know that John Lloyd became a soldier at Ft. Niagara in Youngstown, Porter, Niagara County New York somewhere around 1788, he must have been expelled or left the Quaker faith. He married Mary Ann Brown of Essex County New Jersey. John Lloyd built a cabin in Niagara County in 1801, followed in the next few years by Thomas Brown and his children, including Mary Ann. I am assuming since this part of New Jersey is near Philadelphia that John was originally born in the Philadelphia area. A lot of this is just guessing and trying to pull threads of information into one piece of cloth.