How do I undo all changes made by another member to a profile

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I seem to only be able to undo changes one at a time and can't fix the changes to parents. The altered profile was Slaughter-411. This is pretty frustrating!
WikiTree profile: Mary Susan Slaughter
in WikiTree Help by J Long G2G3 (3.5k points)
I would highly recommend citing some real sources in a usable way before embarking on an edit war.

I can tell you right now that the marriage date is wrong, since that's the date Zebedee Kendall married his first wife Susannah McKoy, so (surprise!) "an Ancestry.com tree" turns out not to be a very reliable source.

"Virginia Marriages, 1785-1940," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRHC-6XF : 11 February 2018), Zebidee Kindall and Susanah Mckoy, 07 Jan 1805; citing Frederick, Virginia, reference 1084; FHL microfilm 31,456.

Mary Kendall's 1880 census (I think "Mary Susan" is a composite)

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8MV-VSY : 13 September 2017), Mary Kendall in household of John C Weisenstine, Center, Guernsey, Ohio, United States; citing enumeration district ED 66, sheet 76A, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 1020; FHL microfilm 1,255,020.

"United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXS1-QJ1 : 12 April 2016), Mary Kendall in household of Zebedee Kendall, Center, Guernsey, Ohio, United States; citing family 654, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

"United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCGT-DBX : 13 December 2017), Mary Kendall in entry for Zebedee Kendall, 1860.

"United States Census, 1870," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6VV-KL8 : 12 April 2016), Mary Kendall in household of Zebedee Kendall, Ohio, United States; citing p. 1, family 10, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 552,705.

Zebedee was in Guernsey Co. Ohio by 1820.

"United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHL3-NWB : accessed 19 September 2018), Zebedee Kindle, Cambridge, Guernsey, Ohio, United States; citing p. 185, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 91; FHL microfilm 181,397.

I would recommend searching the Cambridge Jeffersonian for her obituary. In 1880 they remark that she was the oldest person in the county, so I think it's pretty likely her death was noticed. https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/35986746/

The parents that were added have no source (by my standards - sorry - just "find a grave" with not even a memorial ID or link).
Good digging, Ben!
Great, Find-a-grave vs. Ancestry.com.
I appreciate the quick responses to my query. I also appreciate the need to live up to the community's expectations by adding source information (I have loads of sources in my public tree at Ancestry, so the knocks against data from Ancestry seem misplaced in this instance, other linkages would require considerable narrative explanation).  I unfortunately at am a point in my life where I don't have time to edit multiple profiles. I also did send a message to the person who changed the information without response yet; I suspect that she is an inexperienced genealogist and new to wikitree who was well intentioned and misinformed. So, I don't see this as an "edit war" situation, and it isn't clear that having had more sources would have averted her edits. My concern is that there doesn't appear to be a global "restore" option to correct all the changes that she made-they have to be made one at a time, with explanations provided, and I couldn't even get most of them to update on my phone. Frankly, that time could be better spent adding sources to the profile. Wikitree should provide tools that streamline corrections and sourcing to encourage contributions.  P.S. the obituary for Mary Slaughter Kendall in the Jefferson is unfortunately sparse on details. She basically outlived everyone who knew of her parents. The other key sources are genetic results and a Kendall family history by Orion Scott Kendall that was published and a revision of that which was not published. Again, my main question was whether there is a "global undo". If that doesn't exists, I think it should.
Using revert is a big deal in the wiki world, and I think it should be discouraged for anything except outright vandalism. I think these were good faith edits, perhaps not correct or sourced, but given the state of the profile, I don't think revert is called for. Without sources, who knows which one is right? It's just he said, she said.

I think citations like "a Kendall family history by Orion Scott Kendall" should be discouraged. That might as well be "some papers in Aunt Mabel's shoebox." Does this book have a titIe? A publisher? I get nothing on Google. If the book cites sources for all of this, then cite those sources too. If it doesn't have sources, it's hardly useful as a source. I realize that creating a profile takes time, but I think it's better to have no profile than a wrong profile. The biggest problem in modern genealogy is that any error gets almost immediately picked up on and spread around, because people are always looking for new data, and when you accidentally create a "fact," like this marriage date, for example, somebody's going to copy that and put it on geni.com or Ancestry.com. Then somebody on here will cite Ancestry.com as the source, and it turns into this circularly-sourced factoid, and then somebody like me has to have some gigantic fight with people to get them to realize it's a mistake. And if someone actually puts it in print, it practically takes an act of Congress to get people to let go of it.

I think you'll find it's much easier to discourage spurious edits if you have solid sourcing and explanations for what's in the profile too.

Maybe Orion Cotton Scott, The Scotch-Irish and Charles Scott's Descendants and Related Families, Self Published, 1917 - https://books.google.com/books?id=MKtRAAAAMAAJ ?
Scott apparently didn't know what her maiden name was either. It's actually pretty odd that nobody ever mentions it anywhere. That always makes me suspect something unusual.

Yes, thanks for finding the right title and source. Orion's book didn't get everything right but most of it points the right way. Theres another key source at google for zebedee, skmethibflike the peoplepof west vriginia that helps link him to the marriage to susanna Mccoy. The person who made the edits has graciously responded and said that she undid them. I couldn't see a full restore option but I have to work on a phone so it's not easy to see all options. It seemed that each event and relationship had to be restored individually and some of the restores didn't seem to work. There' s lot of different evidence that I had to use to connect up the family members so it would take considerable time to write it all up, such as the identity of the two wives of Zebedee. This was the first time in 4 years that anyone else had done anything to her profile, so the interest and help from anyone is appreciated.

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Long, you can restore the profile to the exact state it was in as of before the changes shown on any of the change pages - you'll find a RESTORE button on each of the change pages to do that.  You can fix changes to parents by removing the current ones and then connecting to the previous ones.

It would be a good idea for you to contact the person who made the changes to ask why she did and also why she did not contact you, as profile manager, before making such major revisions.
by Gaile Connolly G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
selected by J Long
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First thing to do is try to have a conversation. Ask for the full content of the sources used. Make friends.
by C. Mackinnon G2G6 Pilot (334k points)
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Well the parents have been changed to hook up to a DAR line.

But connection changes are only logged at one end, which makes it impossible to see how much else might have been changed.
by Living Horace G2G6 Pilot (631k points)
The original father was Frederick, but I can't help wondering if somebody misread the Ancestry database (Virginia Marriages 1740-1850) and took that to be the bride's father when it was actually the county.

Could be, but I think the idea that she's the daughter of Judge James Slaughter has to be ruled out since she says her parents were born in Maryland in 1880. This Frederick Slaughter appears to be Frederick Slaughter sometime of Guernsey Co. OH, which would make sense. In 1850, he says he was born in PA; MD and PA get confused a lot in the mid 1700s due to the border dispute, so I could see that being a better fit than the Culpepper Slaughters who were Virginians going back generations.

"United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MX3Q-VT4 : 12 April 2016), Frederick Slaughter in household of John Lannam, Union, Monroe, Ohio, United States; citing family 174, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

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