Nes, Van Ness, Vannes, Hendricksz or something else for Cornelis b 1602? [closed]

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What should be used for the WikiTree ID for him? This isn't my line, so I can't even make a a reasoned suggestion! Thanks for any help!

Update May 6: final decision (hopefully): van Nes

WikiTree profile: Cornelis Hendricksz Nes
closed with the note: the questions was answered in 2014 and the merges completed. If the wrong decision was reached then, then the profile needs a new LNAB discussion. Thanks!
in Genealogy Help by Liz Shifflett G2G6 Pilot (412k points)
closed by Liz Shifflett
Looking at all the info and merge activity at van Ness-31, I'm thinking the answer is van Ness. If van Ness-31's a match, I'll go with it as final WikiTree ID unless I hear otherwise by March 21. Thanks!

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Hi Liz, I'm looking into this - more reliable sources state that his full name is Cornelis  Hendricksz van Nes (his father according to the same sources has the same LNAB). This specific profile should have as LNAB van Nes

Philip (the rest of my comments I'll place on the profile page; this G2G text is something terrible to work - type / copy / paste / hyprlink - in ... )

by Philip van der Walt G2G6 Pilot (151k points)

Hi Philip! I was thinking I'd post a notice on the Nes-1 profile that I'd change the LNAB to van Nes - per your post above. However, the information you posted on that page shows his name as Cornelis Hendricksz van Nesch ... so, why van Nes over van Ness, or even van Nesch.

So - any reason why the existing Van Ness profile shouldn't be the final WikiTree ID? (the Van Ness-31 profile... um, Van Ness-16; um, no Van Ness-8 is the lowest number).


You are absolutely spot on. If his LNAB was spelled that way (van Nesch) it should also be the LNAB of the profile. Wikipedia tells us that there are at least 10 places / regions in the Netherlands bearing that name (nes / nis / neus is an old word - it means as much as a piece of land lying outside of the dyke or a headland as in a beachy head. However, it could be that his name was already being spelled this way in New Amsterdam at that time. With a double ss. See:

so. Should the LNAB be van Nesch or van Ness.  pardon, since in America, that would be Van Nesch or Van Ness, right?

Hi Liz, depsite my previous 'best' answer I would go with Hendrickz as the LNAB just because of the fact that he was not born in the Colony.  I would AKA-him with Van Ness / Van Nes / Van Nesch - only these oher variants.

ok. I undid the best answer. Now the answer is he should be Hendrickz. Right?

If no objections by April 3, I'll change one of his profiles to be Hendrickz (no profile with that name currently exists for him).

Thanks, Liz

subsequent e-mails & discussion resulted in changing Hendrickz-2 to van Nes-28

Van Ness and it would be Hendrickse
Hi Kirk! I should close this question. It was answered in 2014 & the merges that needed to be done were done. Could you start a new G2G post to discuss changing the last name at birth to something else? Also, I noticed the profile has the unsourced template, so if you could also add sources, that'd be great! Thanks :D
Thanks Liz!

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