Which project should manage Acadians who were deported?

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Background: In 1755, the British began to export Acadians from their homeland (the British now controlled the area). Over 3,000 of these Acadian deportees eventually settled in Louisiana from 1764 - 1790. Both the Acadian and the Louisiana Families Project have an interest in these profiles. All of them have plaques on the Wall of Names at the Acadian Memorial in St. Martinville, Louisiana. http://www.acadianmemorial.org/genealogy.php

I believe we have 4 choices:

1. Current policy allows more than 1 project to manage a profile but it is discouraged. Still, we could continue to put both projects on the profile as managers.

2. Put only the Acadian Project Box

3. Put only the Louisiana Families Project Box

4. Somehow create another project or sub-project for this group of people with its own project box or sticker-it would probably grow to more than 3,000, since many of them had children born in Louisiana . If you like this option, please volunteer to lead it. It's a great opportunity to learn and share your skills in a leadership role.
asked in Policy and Style by Jacqueline Girouard G2G6 Mach 4 (41.1k points)
Soon, the Data Base Error (DBE) will begin to flag profiles that have more than one project as a manager, which is why I posted this question here. I want us to be in agreement on what our policy is when we encounter these suggestions. We can mark them "false errors".

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Great question! I've often thought about this. Personally, I'm OK with keeping them in both projects, because they are a transitional group. They can be easily identified by the use of categories that we already have for them, such as "Acadian Immigrants to Louisiana", "The Wall of Names at the Acadian Memorial", and "Great Upheaval" [which contains more than just refugees to Louisiana].

I guess my biggest question is, what larger purpose would a separate project really serve, other than adhering to the guideline about one project per profile? What would be the advantage of a separate project? It's hard for me to imagine removing them from either Acadians or Louisiana Families, as they are so very important to both.
answered by Joyce Rivette G2G6 Mach 2 (25k points)
selected by Stephanie Ward

That is the way I saw it also, but see Stephanie's post below. I don't like splitting this group off either but it is an option (a bad one I thinkfrown)

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The logical choice to me for the Acadians themselves and those born to them during the time of the 'Grand Derangement' is the Acadian Project. I would include those children of Acadians born before a final relocation was made. Children born after a permanent relocation would get the sticker indicating Acadian ancestry, and those born in Louisiana would go to the Louisiana Families Project. I understand the problem, as many of their Acadian parents were Louisiana First Families. But I think maybe those should just get the Louisiana Families sticker. My reasoning is that the Louisiana Families Project must contain thousands of non-Acadian profiles as well.
answered by Stephanie Ward G2G6 Mach 3 (32.4k points)
You make some good points Stephanie. I think it could work if we made a big effort to add the Louisiana First Families category when we make the change. I agree about our La. Fam project potentially getting too big. One thing we could do is split the project into two groups: those born before 1800 and those born after. All the "Acadians" would fall in the first group since I don't know of any who emigrated after that time. Or, we could simply, change the scope of the project to a narrower time frame.
On the other hand, as you said, current policy allows both projects to manage, and as far as I know having both has never caused a problem-- the two projects seem to work well together. I think this could be a case of "If it ain't broke..."
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Sinice Acadians were Deported and ended up not only in Louisianna but in other states and other countries, maybe the best thing would be to have One specific other project that includes all of these profiles from "Le Grand Dearangement- The Great Expulsion"  Doing one project of The Expulsion itself would allow for inclusion of all the ships and those who  were put on them, where they landed, and where they went from there. In this way, all of these Ancestors would be much easier for new genealogists to locate them thru the project page maybe itself, under say a sub-catagory of deportees -ships- * where to"  the expulsion for those just beginning their research leaves many completely lost because suddenly thier families become "brick walls" - especially when they don't know the history or the names of the ships, or what states or countries they may have ended up in, & many along with spouses &  or children died during these removals.  Then add I dunno a Location After Expulsion-Notes Section in Bio for "stickers" maybe that include Acadian, Louisianna First Families, NC, MA, etc
answered by Arora Anonymous G2G6 Mach 3 (32.2k points)
Those are good points--thanks for answering. We can do what you suggest without creating another project by using categories. Check this out: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Great_Upheaval

We do need a volunteer to work on it by adding all the needed categories as you describe. It's so true that families got torn apart.
I agree with Jackie, categories could do this without the need of a new project. If we decide to go this route, I would be willing to spend some time adding categories, but it will take a huge amount of effort and hopefully several volunteers familiar with the deportations!
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We have to be careful with the wording.  The Acadians that immigrated to Louisiana after the peace agreement of 1763 were probably from many sources but were not deported there.  Some were held prisoners of war in Nova Scotia until the end of the war, others were deported to France, held captives in England and some likely deported in the British colonies between 1755-1763.

Finding the impact of that expulsion on each of our Acadian ancestors is a very interesting study...
answered by Martin Roy G2G Crew (590 points)
Martin makes a really good point here. Setting up categories can be very tricky. Some families made interim moves before finally ending up wherever they ended up. Figuring out the category structure will take a lot of thought on the scope of what we're trying to accomplish with them. Would it be a broad stroke, just categorizing where they were initially deported to or imprisoned? Or which ship they took if known? Where they ended up after exile ended? A huge undertaking...
We could do some of the organizing with a sticker, but guidelines say try to hold the number of stickers to two on a profile. The sticker could say deported year and to where--might be able to put the ship name. Then a category or another sticker could give info about the emigration. All of the Acadians who emigrated to Louisiana will eventually have several categories, including the Wall of Names. I have the booklet but there are about 3,000 names... Some stayed all along the eastern seaboard or returned to Acadia (Nova Scotia). Some were sent to England first, then to France and in 1785 about 3,000 or those in France volunteered to go Louisiana, 30 years after the deportations began! Some were deported to Virginia and a few months later sent to England (about 1/2 of these perished at sea).
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Since all Acadian refugees shared the same genealogical history, whether they settled in Louisiana, Maryland, Florida, England or elsewhere, I believe they should be recognized by the Acadian Project. And since the Louisiana contingent constituted such a major portion of the early Louisiana population, I think they should be also be members of the Louisiana Families Project.

So I vote for the first option. Use both categories.
answered by Morris Simon G2G3 (3.7k points)
Thanks for your thoughtful response Morris. I believe we can make it work to have both projects monitor the profiles, but you clearly state the reasons both projects have an interest.
My sense is that any person who ever lived in Acadia should be in the Acadian Project regardless of where they ended up.  You then could have sub projects for areas where they ended up, such as Louisiana.  Those born in Louisiana should be part of the Louisiana Families.

That makes the Projrct definitions to match where they were most affiliated.

Yes, that makes sense, but we are encouraged to limit project numbers to 5,000 or less--the system doesn't handle large watch lists efficiently. Both Louisiana and Acadian projects are well over that already and growing. I have been the only active leader for several years and just recently got some much needed help from a few stalwarts (prayers answered!heart) (feeling sorry for myself crying ) People born in more modern times aren't necessarily needing project protection since sources are more readily available to the general public and aren't as likely to get messed up or duplicated, but we can put the stickers on them and categories. The surnames stabilized after about 1860 or so. We could expand them in the future--right now, we're trying to get a handle on the projects to start a systematic project to improve the profiles. You're on our short list for worker bees Scott. wink

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