Still a brick wall on 1777 Clark ancestor

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I have about run out of ideas to find parents of Clark-45190.

Five Clarks can be traced as 'from St. John' (river in New Brunswick) in the 1800 census for kenduskeag plantation and/or ohio settlement, then in Hancock County, then still part of Massachusetts (now in or around Bangor, Penobscot, Maine).  My known ancestor (documented in "Original Records of Levant Maine", Picton Press), Ichabod Clark-45190, is one of them.  [The rest of these may or may no be related] An older Ichabod is another.  Two Joseph Clarks of similar age, and an Aaron Clark.  Undocumented in the census but mentioned in Erma Winter's "History of Kenduskeag Maine" is a Benjamin Clark, brother to one of the Josephs and a Pecallies Clark from Epping NH.  She then makes the non-sequitur that (another?) Joseph Clark came, not related to either of the other Clarks (but there were three discussed and two were related).

At least one of the Josephs is mentioned in many histories as being in the attack on Ft. Cumberland and as being an early settler of Levant, Maine with Benjamin Bubier and a Mr. Knowland.  Benjamin Bubier and at least one Joseph are in the Studholme Report as rebels.  [This means they were in Nova Scotia/new Brunswick or Machias, taking up arms... the others were too young to take up arms.]

Benjamin Bubier's father owned granted land next to Joseph Clark [Sr.], who owned land next to Widow Clark.  It would make sense that the widow and younger kids took one free lot and that adult Joseph took another,  [But later statements in the Canadian registry disavow them and their lots were given over to Loyalists].  If this was 1763 (most grants were) he would be the right age to take up arms in 1776 and still be old enough to take a lot, but so could his son or his cousin...
[But I should not get sidetracked on Josephs since i cannot even prove they are related to Ichabod (1777-1729).]


There is no reference I can find that refers to the Widow with a name. [I bet from more recent discovery that she is Sarah and I have a thread elsewhere suggesting Sarah Palmer.]

If records were stored in Halifax, they are unindexed.  If they transferred to Frederickton, the building burnt in 1825.  If I could find Rev. Seth Noble's diary that might have 'church records.  If Col. Eddy wrote biographies of his men in his memoirs..., if...

By now I'd at least have hoped to figure out which of the five are related or where in the colonies they went to St John river from... [... or if they even came from the colonies as opposed to straight from Ulster or ireland or Britain...]

Instead I also find a Pecallies Clark that never went to Canada and i also pick up Elias and Moses in Gagetown in the Studholm Report that did not go to the same part of Maine, [if they left at all.]

Short of organizing an "all Clarks DNA event" to find a hot spot (likely Essex County) of related Clark origins, what are my best next steps?

WikiTree profile: Ichabod Clark
in Genealogy Help by Jeff Andle G2G6 Mach 1 (12.1k points)
edited by Jeff Andle

another Ichabod!

Jotham Clark was born 8 March 1794 in Milton, Sartoga, New York. His parents were Ichabod Clark (1766-1844) and Sarah Weed (1771-1852). He married Mary Ann McAdams when he was twenty-three. They had nine children. Includes Baker, Thwing, Weed and related families.

From:  The Journal of Jotham Clark, 1794-1887 History and Humor from the Homestead with Some Genealogical De[s]cendants of Ichabod Clark (1766-1844)

1985

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There are 2 Josephs in this UEL list

http://www.uelac.org/Loyalist-Info/loyalist_list.php?letter=c

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I saw your post and I thought that I could help.  I went to FamilySearch.org Familytrees-genealogies and I found this:  

Ichabod Clark was born around 1777  in New Hampshire  to Joseph Clark and Jean Borland.    Joseph was born around 1737 om Corinth,  Penobscot, Maine.  Ichabod married          Mary Lancaster about 1796 at age 19 in Maine. They had 12 children and they are:  Joseph P Clark b. 1794- 1879;   Catherine Clark b. 1795 ; Thankful Clark - b. 1792-  -1856'  Polly Clark -b. 1799 '   Olive Clark b. 1801 ---1870;  Dorcas Clark b. 1803 -  1875  ; Salathiel Clark b. 1805- 1875;  Dorcas Clark b. 1807 - 1880;     Richard Lancaster Clark b. 1809 ------1876 married Lucinda P  Thompson b. 1811- 1866;  Elmira ( or Almira) Clark b. 1811 -----1881:   Sophronia Clark b. 1814 -  d.:unk;  Henry Clark  b. 1817. I
I hope I have help you but if  I haven't then I apologize and I will find the right one.  Please let me know if you need more help, Ok,  Nancy
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Nancy,  First  "Thank you".

Unfortunately, it is not that easy.  While the LDS indexing is a godsend, it was a semi-automated process and many people that are original settlers of a place are shown as born there - in this case years before the first settler appeared.  [Profiles that show birth in Levant before 1785, or much of anywhere else near Bangor, are suspect.  The people are real, but the system is flagging the town they had children in as their birth town.]

From "Ichabod married ..." down is correct.  However, the 1800 census shows Ichabod (age 23), Ichabod (age 26~44), 2x Joseph (age 26~44), and Aaron  (age 26~44) coming from the St. John river valley.  

'The earliest regular settlement of the county commenced in Bangor, in 1769; then followed settlements at Brewer and Orrington, 1770; Hampden, 1772; Oldtown, 1773; Orono, 1774; Veazie, 1786; Eddington, 1780; Holden, 1786; Hermon, 1791, Newport, 1794; Charleston and Corinth, 1795, Carmel, 1796; Levant and Newburg, 1798; Dixmont, 1799; Hudson, Kenduskeag, Milford, and Stetson, 1800; Dexter and Exeter, 1801; Garland, 1802; Bradford, 1803; Corinna, 1804; Glenburn, 1806;

"The original settlers of the tract occupied by Levant are understood to have been the brothers George and William Tibbetts, and two other persons named Boobar {Bubiar} and Knowland ; but the date or dates of their coming are not certainly ascertained. They were on the ground, however, sometime before 1800. Mr. Williamson, the historian, says that the first settler in Levant was Joseph Clark , one of the refugees who fled with Colonel Jonathan Eddy from Nova Scotia after the unlucky affair at Fort Cumberland in September, 1776, and that Clark began to fell trees in Levant as early as 1789. (History of Penobscot County, Maine, pg. 404)

Many "records" (I have only second hand writings show an older Joseph Clark as an original settler of Maugerville, Sunbury County, now New Brunswick. 

https://minerdescent.com/2012/10/15/new-england-planters-in-new-brunswick/  “The list of the grantees of the Township of Maugerville, …, includes the following names: ... Joseph Clark, Widow Clark.”  It is possible she was not a widow then and he died later, but that the histories later called her Widow even before he died and only a single lot is listed before the Loyalist Dr. Joseph Clarke came 20 years later…

Last night I found:

"Canada Births and Baptisms, 1661-1959," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLG6-562 : 10 February 2018), Joseph Clarke, 12 Dec 1768; citing , SHEFFIELD, SUNBURY, NEW BRUNSWICK, 12 Dec 1768, reference 2:16T0T45; FHL microfilm 928,969.

Sheffield is the town next to where the Clarks lot was (Maugerville), but the church was moved there and the records likely from the church.  We learn that thousands - mostly from Essex County, but also from the rest of new England, flooded into 'free' land on the St. John river and in modern Nova Scotia.  Many rebelled ten years later and their origins were poorly documented to start and erased by Loyalists in the end.

I also have several marriages of relevance

.1793, Dec. 23             Joseph Clark Jr. and Mrs. Jane Potter p. 48

1793, January 2,          Arad Mayhew and Elizabeth Clark p. 48

1796, Nov. 8               Ichabod Clark (1777) to Mary Lancaster p. 39

1799 Oct. 5,                Richard Lancaster (Mary’s brother) to Thankful Clark p. 57

https://books.google.com/books?id=TgE8AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA41&lpg=PA41&dq=%22ohio+settlement%22+maine&source=bl&ots=c_OqZq1ZlB&sig=-1GjixPwsLKAMC0HT1MgnQyXUtg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiJ-6TGp4feAhUPU98KHaStCSsQ6AEwBXoECAQQAQ#v=onepage&q=clark&f=false  The Maine Historical Magazine, Volume 1

Erma Winters' "A history of Kenduskeag, Maine" ”, pg. 8-9 we find:

“There were at least two residents in the township when Wetmore bought it.  A William Tibbets, who built his cabin in 1786, told his children that there was not another white man at that time between him and Canada.  There was also Joseph Clark who had been with Jonathan Eddy at Fort Cumberland.  Williamson’s history reports that Clark was felling timbers and making “a beginning” in 1789.  Clark, and his brother, Benjamin*, built the dam on Black Stream at what is now Levant Village.   (* Erma Williams claims direct descent from Benjamin.)

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The census of 1800 gives the township and “adjacent places” 129 inhabitants.  Williamson’s history says there were 11 families, and names George and William Tibbets, a Mr. Knowland**, and a Mr. Boobar***.  Joseph Clark, who had been living on Lot 2 in the 4th range for 11 years must have been a fifth family.  His brother, Benjamin, may have settled there by that time.”

So:

1) Joseph Clarke Sr. b < 1749, m. < 1767, Sarah ???, moved from... ? to Maugerville/Sheffield  c. 1766 and died there [assumed] 

2) 12 Dec 1768 Joseph Clark Jr. m. Jane Potter 1793; settled in Levant 1789

3) ... uncertain.

1) (maybe 3?) Another Joseph Clark from New Brunswick

1) Ichabod Clark b? d? settled in "new Ohio" (Corinth, Maine?)

1) (possible (3) above or 2 to Ichabod-1) Ichabod 1777-1829 the one i am trying to find ancestors for...

1) Aaron Clark m. Margaret ???, d. 1809, Bangor, Maine.

So, I pushed the wall back a generation on the documentable Joseph, whether uncle, father, or cousin, but no movement on the others.  Benjamin Clark should be trackable and there are unsourced profiles saying Georgetown, Maine, 1765.  That [leaving Georgetown for New Brunswick after 1765 and then having Joseph there] would fit with Joseph Clark and Joseph Bubier lots being nearly last in the original Maugerville progression up the river (landing them on the river c. 1767 with a son before and a son after).

Thank You,  I know its not ever easy but I thought you wanted or needed his parents, which I have to trust whatever site I need to go to get information. But it is always what someone else believe to be true for their family. I am only bringing you information that you would know how or if its what you are looking for.  However I did some checking and I don't know if you know this or not or maybe you already have it, I just don't know. but I did find some interesting things and they are:    

Joseph Clark b. 1737 was born to David Clark and Ruth Marshall.  David was born 1704 -1777. and Ruth Marshall was born 1704 - 1781.  Joseph had one son,  Elishai Clark b. 1782-1850   --------------this was off of Geni.com

Capt. Zachariah Clark b. 1734 -------Died 9 April 1814  Middlesex Co. Ct. Find a grave memorial #78088156

also Joseph Clark Sr. b. 23 Jan 1692 Middlesex  Co. Ct.---died 10 Sep 1770 Middlesex Co. Ct. Hearse Hill Cemetery   ---(  they are 10 Clark's buried in same cemetery). ( and they are 73 Clarks buried in Chester. Ct. Find a grave memorial # 40781163.

Also Rev. Joseph Clark , Sr. b. 9 Dec 1618 Suffolk England  -------------died 1 June 1694  Swan Point Cemetery, Providence Co. Rhode Island.  Find a grave memorial # 54609439   PLEASE READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   They are 52 Clarks buried in same cemetery.  492 clarks are buried in Providence Co. Rhode Island.  

Here is a link that you might like to read;     

www,manorweb.com/genea/theclark.html   The Clark Family Revolutionary Fame;  Descendants of John Clark.     Also; this site.   

sites.google.com/site/genealogy/hughes/home/clark         also this one

www.maine.gove/sos/arc/research/revwargrants.html

I hope I have given you things that you could use or need but if not, maybe someone else would like them also so maybe you could pass it along. If you need anything specific then please I would love to help. Nancy

I definitely do want Ichabod's parents and to understand how the others are related.  I can't rule out these Clarks or the Lebanon, CN Clarks as the broader family.  Unfortunately all of the sites are 'broken' for Clarks in this time period.  Too many people have made a leap to the royal line and now the peer-sourced profiles keep gravitating to these answers.

The difficulty is that parents that I am looking for left New England for Canada around 1765 (or went straight to Canada from Ulster or England) and came back around 1783.  Ichabod's parents were definitely in Nova Scotia (the part that is now New Brunswick) in 1777.  Right now it appears I need to find a Joseph and Sarah Clark in New England prior to 1767.

My sister and I have been keeping a scrap file of all relevant Clarks, so at the very least, these will join the others.  I certainly don't want to dissuade you from more suggestions!

You said you needed to find a Joseph and a Sarah Clark in New England prior to 1767.  but do you have birth dates of Joseph or Sarah. or where abouts in New England they lived?  Its really hard to search something and maybe you might find a Joseph or Sarah Clark but then when we present them to you, you then say they did not live in that area or this area.  Before I start searching I think I need a more complete picture. I don't need much of a explanation,  Just give a name  Joseph Clark b.    ?   New England, and a Sarah ?       Clark b. ?       New England.  I am just guessing that you are looking for a Joseph Clark  b. around 1730 to 1750. But they may be too many to make a wild guess.  Understand.  But sailed to America to maybe Canada or What?  where? about 1767?  But I keep finding Joseph Clark's  but they aren't the right one. So I am not sure exactly what you are needing or who I am suppose to find.   Please more specific in who you are looking for and give dates or and places of where they lived or when they came to America. How many children? Or the wife dies and the husband remarries and has more children.  Give dates when ever possible and places.  I can search New England for a Joseph Clark but I am sure it won't be the right one.   So we are trying our best to help you but we can't if we don't have the information we need.  So don't take this personally, I mean no harm but I don't know your family so it doesn't help me find the right person,   NAME, DATES OF BIRTH, WHERE THEY WERE BORN, WHERE THEY DIED, WIFE'S NAME, DATES OF BIRTH, PLACE OF BIRTH, HOW MANY CHILDREN?    if WE HAD THIS MAYBE WE CAN HELP YOU MORE.   Thanks, Nancy

I am not taking it personally, but let me put a little perspective.  I have spent two sleepless months obsessed on this because I am a compulsive problem solver (research engineer...) and I have still not run out of Clarks to look at, refute, re-examine, etc.  I cannot count the number of auto-generated profiles i want to fix (but that belong to other people's fantasy ancestry team on other sites).  I sincerely appreciate your help and your enthusiasm.  I am not upset and really do appreciate it.  Sadly it is not as easy as finding a name in the list as there are many, many, many possibilities.  There are also many complex boundary conditions - where people came from, went to, etc.

I said I had a brick wall at Ichabod, b 1777 and from New Brunswick.  I also mentioned some people - possibly relatives - that came from New Brunswick with him.  You have completely hit the nail on the head - there are way too many Clarks and not even all closely related.

To reset... 

I have definitive knowledge of ancestry back to Ichabod and Mary and DNA circle match at Salathiel (Ichabod's son).  I know that the five Clark heads of household in the Bangor, Maine area in 1800 that I listed all came from the St. John river valley.  That excludes anyone born in US after 1767 (the tail end of the New England Planters migration to displace the Acadiens).  The ancestor of the Clark(s) that went to Acadie might have stayed, so there could be origins ancestors still in New England after 1767.  Most (but certainly not all) of the Planters came from Essex County, though I see names in Canada that are families from York and Sagadahoc counties in Maine).  

Now - another wrinkle - there were also a lot of Ulster Scots and no small number of irish that went straight to Nova Scotia in the mid 1700's.  I cannot say that the ancestor of Ichabod Clark was from the colonies at all.  All i know is that he was not, then after the war he was.  I'd like Joseph Clark Jr. to be his father - the opinion of Studholm of Joseph Clark Jr. fits me and my father.

So, for example, the first line Ancestry gave me was Joseph Clark and Jane Borland, who ultimately trace through to Edward Longshanks if you believe Ancestry.com.  I deleted it.  I ended up with another chain back to another Plantagenet.  I deleted it.  

I won't even try to reconcile that the ancestors I know are Irish Catholic - including a cousin and an Uncle that are priests - with the Methodist, Baptist, and Puritans in the tree.  I won't try to reconcile British or Scots roots with a family that two generations back claimed the three oak leaf coat of arms of north-western Catholic  Ireland.  Enough family legends and dreams have crashed on the rocks and i am not that hung up on supporting them.  But the pieces of the puzzle need to fit.

Then I noticed that the 1800 census in my ancestors' home towns had the place of origin filled out and that it was 'St. John'.  Also, Rev. Seth Noble and Col. Jonathan Eddy performed marriages for Ichabod, Joseph, and their two sisters.  Joseph (still not sure he is an ancestor) is listed as being in the attack on Ft. Cumberland with Col. Eddy and Rev. Noble was the minister in Maugerville on the St. John river.  This all fits.  He and his brother benjamin were original settlers in one town and feature in several histories.  Still not sure if they are brothers, cousins, or just travel buddies.

So Ichabod Clark, Joseph Clark Jr, Thankful Clark, and Elizabeth Clark, at least, were born in Maugerville-Sheffield between 1765 and 1783.  The other Ichabod, the other Joseph, and Aaron Clark may be older, may have been born before the families went to Canada, but they came from Canada between 1783 and 1789 and all seven of these - maybe others - were in or near Bangor Maine by 1800.  It appears that all of them and one other were living in Joseph Clark Jr.'s home in the 1790 census.  

I believe the record that I found for Joseph Clarke Jr., 12 Dec. 1768, Sheffield; son of Joseph Clarke Sr and Sarah.  That would also make them the original petitioners in Maugerville in 1763~1767 (Joseph Sr and the Widow Clark).  That would mean Joseph Sr died in New Brunswick, since the widow stayed long enough to be in post-Loyalist New Brunswick history.  

There is an entry in the Studholm report for Joseph Clark Jr. - it is not Joseph Sr. because he has no family and is renting land, not on a 20 year old farm.  In the same town (Gagetown, NB) were an Elias Clark and a Moses Clark, who are from Lebanon, CN by way of Cornwalis and another town.  Elias also has a son, Joseph Clark.  I am getting my sister to verify the birth date.  Erma Williams' "History of Kenduskeag, Maine" says there were two Joseph Clarks and they were not related.  Also Ichabod's daughter, named after his sister (?), Thankful Clark, married a Joseph P. Clark that was born near Bangor, maine and was not related.  It is possible that Joseph P. Clark is the son of one Joseph and Ichabod the son of the other.  If so, i still could not document which was which's son!  It's also possible that Joseph Clarke Sr. is an as yet undocumented brother or cousin of Elias Clark from Lebanon, CN.

OK, I misspoke - this is not a brick wall, it is a spider web.

On these, specifically:

Joseph Clark b. 1737 was born to David Clark and Ruth Marshall.  David was born 1704 -1777. and Ruth Marshall was born 1704 - 1781.  Joseph had one son,  Elishai Clark b. 1782-1850   --------------this was off of Geni.com

If Joseph was in Sheffield, New brunswick, Canada in 1768 and likely died there, and if there was a Joseph Clark Jr, this does not fit.


Capt. Zachariah Clark b. 1734 -------Died 9 April 1814  Middlesex Co. Ct. Find a grave memorial #78088156

If he died in Ct, it is unlikely a son was born in 1777 and went to Canada during the war then to Bangor after...


also Joseph Clark Sr. b. 23 Jan 1692 Middlesex  Co. Ct.---died 10 Sep 1770 Middlesex Co. Ct. Hearse Hill Cemetery   ---(  they are 10 Clark's buried in same cemetery). ( and they are 73 Clarks buried in Chester. Ct. Find a grave memorial # 40781163. 

same...

Also Rev. Joseph Clark , Sr. b. 9 Dec 1618 Suffolk England  -------------died 1 June 1694  Swan Point Cemetery, Providence Co. Rhode Island.  Find a grave memorial # 54609439   PLEASE READ THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   They are 52 Clarks buried in same cemetery.  492 clarks are buried in Providence Co. Rhode Island. 

 Rev. Joseph Clark , Sr. b. 9 Dec 1618 died 1 June 1694 could be the father of a Joseph born around 1740 - this is worth looking into.  The Joseph that I said could not have been born in levant in 1737 COULD be the right Joseph, just with bad data.  he was tagged as Levant because he ended up there, just that it was 1783~1789 that he got there.  That would leave the Joseph and Widow Clark saga unanswered, but really, i don't need to explain every Clark!

Here are other Clarks I am trying to trace into this - mostly because they are from near Essex County Massachusetts.

IF the first Joseph married a Sarah and went to New Brunswick, then this line fits.  BUT, I think that the daughters were married off in Worcester.

Either Matthew makes little sense because of a lack of Josephs and Ichabods.

John(athan?) Clark of Worcester [from Northern Ireland]

{

Jonathan Clark Jr from Northern Ireland settled Worcester before 1733 

{

}

Joseph Clark Sr born WHEN, Died *WHERE* between Dec 1767 and June 11, 1772

{

Son Joseph Jr no DOB m: but 12 Dec. 1768 - Sheffield could fit

                        would be a impossible be Ichabod's father in 1777, but could be the second Joseph that appeared in Bangor/Levant.

Daughter Sarah no DOB m: Jerathneel Wilder

Daugher Mary m: William Stone

Daughter Easter m: Soloman Bixby

Daugher Priscilla m: Aaron Wilder 

}

Matthew Clark b. <1740 Ireland; Imm. <1740, m. Elizabeth ___, Worcester --> Lancaster; d. July 9 1761/ -Lancaster Vital Records pp 285

[Matthew Clark and wife in communion with the Irish Church in Worcester.]

{

James, 

Mary, 

Elizabeth, 

Matthew Clark b. <1733 Ireland; Imm. <1733, m. Jane Jennet Bothwell (1703-1789), Worcester --> Londonderry (why Maine history???); 

{

Jane Jean 1727-1780

John 1728-1810

Alexander 1730-1823

Agnes Clark (2 Jun 1732-1816)

William 1734-1807 Londonderry?

Hannah 1736-1759 Londonderry?

Elizabeth 1739-1785 Londonderry?

Margaret 1740-1794 Londonderry?

Sarah 1742-1758 Londonderry?

Matthew III 1744-1813 Londonderry?

[ Perry's Scotch-Irish, p. 14][Documentary History of Maine, Vol 11, p.24][Worcester Vital Records

]

William, 

Mary 

John, 

Daniel, 

Sarah

[Scotch-Irish in New England, p. 14

]

}

 }

I just need to know that where is this New Brunswick you keep talking about?  Mainly because I know at least I think its in Canada, but I believe you believe it is in Massachusetts  However I did not know there was a New Brunswick, Mass. back in the 1500's or 1600's  or even 1700's.  I do a lot of research in Canada and New Brunswick, Canada was one of the places that I know about..  Did you say that some of the family is buried in Maine? Or was it Connecticut?    I did find another site that might help you.  

www.angelfire.com/folk/morgan/fam/fam03197.htm           At least I hope you can get something out of it.  It isn't very much but It might could help.  I will try to see what I can find and get back to you.  Nancy

It is the province of Canada aast of Maine and north of Nova Scotia.  Until 1784 it was all Nova Scotia.  New Brunswick became a province then.

Thousands of people left New England in the 1760's between the French and Indian war and the Revolution.  They settled near present day Fredericktown (my ancestors did), and in Nova Scotia.  The bright idea was to put them as a buffer between the kind folk of Halifax and the indians upriver.

Instead the Gov't of Halifax settled a large number of rebellious settlers into their midst.  They attempted to pull Nova Scotia into the rebellion and - if the Continental Congress could have spared another 200 fighters - they would have succeeded.

Let me work backwards.  I was born in bangor, Penobscot, Maine.  All of the Clarks between me and Salathiel Clark were born within two towns of Bangor.  Until my father, all of them since Ichabod died within 2 towns of Bangor.  Most are in Mt Pleasant or Mt Hope cemeteries.

Ichabod and the other four men came to Bangor from the St John river valley of New Brunswick, Canada.  I think two sisters came with them.  The 1790 census shows Joseph Clark, 5 other adult men, and 2 women, then the 1800 census shows five Clark heads of household and says they came to the area "from St. John".  This is what I have consistently been saying.

So I am certain that Ichabod was born in Canada (on the river) in 1777.  It appears that a Joseph Clark was born on the river in 1768.  The other three are still uncertain.

I do not know how they got to St John river settlements, but the majority of the people that came to that area came from Essex County, massachusetts between 1760 and 1770.

https://minerdescent.com/2012/10/15/new-england-planters-in-new-brunswick/ is a very good read.

This is only certain trace from New Brunswick, since both Benjamin Bubier and Joseph Clark show up in Bangor Maine together 6 years later:

http://sites.rootsweb.com/~cannb/NB_Census_1783Studholm_Report.htm

Gage Town

9. Elias Clark has a wife and 6 children, a log house and about 6 acres of land cleared. Has been on the river about 4 years, and on the lot where he now lives about 3 years. Came from Cornwallis. 

14. Benjamin Booby has a wife and one child, came into Gagetown last fall, built a log house and cleared about 5 acres of land. Has no title but possession and was one that went in arms against Fort Cumberland

15. Moses Clark has a wife and 4 children, came from Yarmouth about 7 years past, but has been on the land he now possesses but about one year. Has a framed house and about 20 acres of cleared land. Says he came on in consequence of an agreement with Mr. Pearly who promised to procure him a deed from Col. Glazier.

36. Joseph Clark has a log house and about 7 or 8 acres of cleared land, which he holds by virtue of a lease from Capt. Spry for 200 acres.

Elias and Moses descend from a settler from Lebanon, Connecticut.  Benjamin Booby descends from a settler from Marblehead, Massachusetts.  Neither proves a link to Ichabod's roots, but it is highly likely that Ichabod was close to Joseph and Benjamin since they migrated to the same town at the same time.

I found some more websites that might help you and they are:   

sciway3.net/clark/clark/index.html   Also; https://www.forgottenbooks.com/en/books/AGenealogy-of-the-clarks_10310148   also:  oldbluegenes.blogspot.com/2011/07/clarks-of-Connecticut.html     also: selectsurnamelist.com/clark.html      also this one:  https://geneal4real.wordpress.com/tag/new-brunswick-canada/  Please read--- Elizabeth -(widow of Samuel Stickney I believe) married William Clark 1769-1856 on 12 Nov. 1816  William was the son of Alexander Clark b. 1745-1825.  he was also an armouer who in 1792 made the copper weathervane for Christ Church of Maugerville and Mary Hoff or Vanderhoff b. 1745-1836/.   The Clarks were Loyalists from Monmouth, N.J. who arrived in Maugerville in 1783. In 1790 William and his brothers were in Capt. David Brille's Company of the Queen;s County Militia. According to many documents on the Provincial Archives of New Brunswick (PANB) Website,  William Clark was overseer for Road improvements in Sunbury and Queen's County.   William was first married in 1796 to Magdalene Balmain 1778-1811.  Together the had 7 children. Go to this site and read more of the names of children if its important.

I hope that I have given some things that may help you, IF not then I am sorry.  You do know that when you go to a website if anything is in light blue you can click on to it for further reading.  Nancy

Nancy, I have used the internet since it was BITNET in the 70's... I remember the first MOSAIC browser, etc. -- That (You do know that when you go to a website if anything is in light blue you can click on to it for further reading.) made me laugh!

I guess you've been approaching this as though I just don't know how to look for these things.  I do know and I have looked. I didn't just say it was a brick wall without a great deal of effort.  Don't get me wrong - I sincerely appreciate the help and the tireless suggestions!

I did just order up the Y37 kit.  It can only help!

The Clark book is interesting and I'll look it over more when I have time.  Unfortunately Thomas in Virginia is contemporary with Ichabod and geographically far off.

The Stickney family are fellow rebels and stayed (yeay, rebels!), but the Clarks they married came after 1783 when my ancestor was born and running from british reprisals for their rebellion.  Surprised Stickney stayed, but if he only voted rebel and accepted the crown, they would have forgiven him.  Joseph Clark and Benjamin Bubier were in the attack and may even still have had 100 pound sterling bounties - not that the Government was acting on them.

You will also find a Dr. Joseph Clarke arrived in 1784 and active in the Church of England, with a Joseph Clarke Jr. that inherited his land in 1795.  These are also Loyalists and their connection to my ancestors - if they were both there long enough - was to start a religious battle in Maugerville that ended in the Methodists dragging their church onto the frozen river and down to Sheffield in the middle of the night!!

I am sorry if I made you laugh but you will be surprised at the amount of people who think they know about the internet but don't.   That was probably your only laugh of the day.  I am trying to help but I am at a lost as to how to help.  Have you got your answer to the original question.?   I am not sure what that was.  Do you feel we have kinda broken down the brick wall that you said you had?   Everyone here tries to do their best in helping people find who they are looking for. Some may propose some problems but others are easy to work.  And I understand how it is frustrating that you just can't get pass certain molehills.  But I will try to continue to help but right now, I am moving and I don't think I will have the time to spend on it.  At least for 2 weeks or more. I do hope that you finally find the answer you need.    Nancy
The DNA link was useful.  Kit is ordered.  I started with looking for Ichabod's ancestors.  Stil looking, but as you see, there are some unique situations here that suggest my ancestors actually avoided records.

Good luck with your move.  My sister has also been plugging away on every Joseph, Aarom, Ichabos, and Benjamin Clark with a birth in New England and unknown death...  She has turned over lots of soil, but no treasure yet.

Thanks!  And yes it was my best laugh if not only so far.  like when my mom used to tell her friends "Oh i don't know what Jeff does - something with Computers."
Jeff,

  I aquired a family bible in Erie,Pa three years back and it has a history of a Clark family. The bible has a 1818 entry as the earliest. That being of a Lyman and Eleanor Clark being married October 1 1818 in Holland N.Y.

  There are other hand written documents listing Jeremiah, son of James and Thankful Clark being married to a Susanna Clark of Plainfield Conn. on April 17,1755.

   There is much more info if you would be interested.  I can be reached at Joeokorn1956@gmail.com
Thanks for following up.  I know my Clarks were in Bangor, Maine by 1790 and were in or near Frederickton, New Brunswick before that.  The family bible is definitely documenting a different branch after 1800, but 'Thankful Clark' is a recurring name in the family in the 1700's and early 1800's.

There are so many distant cousin Clarks in the same place that nobody even gets to act concerned when one Clark marries another!  I'll send an email.

Thanks!

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