trying to find a birth for south africa

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I am trying find birth information for a Henry Foulkes Deare who was born in Port Elizabeth I am filling in what I can as he was buried in Cobham, Surrey

His Parents were Henry Brutton Deare and Catherine S Unknown

I am hoping that someone can work back for me to join him to the bigger tree
WikiTree profile: Henry Deare
asked in Genealogy Help by Steph Meredith G2G6 Mach 6 (68.7k points)

Henry F Draw

 in the 1871 England Census

Name: Henry F Draw
[Henry F Deare] 
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's name: Henry B Draw
Mother's name: Catharine S Draw
Gender: Male
Where born: Cape of Good Hope
Civil Parish: Cheshunt
Town: Cheshunt
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Cheshunt
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 39
Piece: 1348
Folio: 68
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry B Draw 43
Catharine S Draw 37
Charles R Draw 19
Florance B Draw 17
Evelyn T Draw 9
Henry F Draw 6
Philip H Draw 4
Kate Kettle 27
Emily Stanbrough 28
Margaret Daveron 35
Jane Squires 21
George Ridge 26

Henry Foulkes Deane

 in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 No Image
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Name: Henry Foulkes Deane
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1890
Marriage Place: Cobham, Surrey, England
Father: Henry Burtton Deane
Spouse: Grace Ethel Combe
FHL Film Number: 1471805
Reference ID: Item 12 p 224

Arthur Henry Deare

 in the South Africa, Birth and Baptism Records, 1700s-1900s

South Africa, Birth and Baptism Records, 1700s-1900s No Image
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Name: Arthur Henry Deare
Gender: Male
Baptism Age: 0
Relation to Parents: Son
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 20 Dec 1854
Baptism Date: 1 Feb 1855
Baptism Place: Port Elizabeth Cape of Good Hope, South Africa
Father: Henry Brutton
Mother: Catherine Sophia
Church: St. Mary's Port Elizabeth
Witness 1: Henry Fancourt White
Witness 2: Arthur Bellars Harries
Witness 3: Helen Deare
Collection: St. Mary's Port Elizabeth Baptisms
Thank you

5 Answers

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Hi Steph

Do you know the church denomination ?

If you could provide it I will see if I can find a link to the church  records in South Africa for you and/or if it is available online.

Warm regards
answered by Ronel Olivier G2G6 Mach 5 (50.3k points)
Thank you Ronel

I have never really dealt with S.A records or anything so that would be a great help
No problem. Just let me know should I look under Methodist  or somewhere else?  As soon as I know  I will start looking. :-D
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Hello Steph, there are 85 references to Hemry B. Deare in the South Africa Archives site, item 46 is a death notice of 1894 (I see he died in 1893, Axbridge, Somerset district, UK, aged 66). The death notice should give wife's maiden name and perhaps the place of marriage (certainly from 1913, maybe before), and parents and children - you know these, NAtional Archives of South Africa, key in Deare, Henry B, the site URL doesn't want to be pasted here, sighs. Kind regards, Neil, South Africa.
answered by anonymous G2G Crew (620 points)
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I found Henry marriage to Catharina Sophia HARRIES if that assists ...
answered by anonymous G2G Crew (620 points)


Saturday 22 February 1851

MARRIED at St.Mary’s Church, Port Elizabeth on Tuesday the 18th Feb by the Rev F. McCleland AB, Henry Bruton DEARE Esq, youngest son of the late Lt-Colonel DEARE, 8th Hussars, to Catherine Sophia, only daughter of W.M. HARRIES Esq, Port Elizabeth.

Port Elizabeth Mercury 1851

"Mr. HARRIES’s health failed him some time ago, and he visited England with a view to taking medical advice. After remaining at Home some months, without deriving that benefit from the change that he expected, he returned to this colony, but on reaching Capetown was in so exhausted a state that his brother-in-law, Mr. Henry DEARE, was telegraphed for, urging him to go to Capetown at once if he wished to see his relative alive. Mr. DEARE went, and Mr. HARRIES rallied a little, so much[..] he died on Sunday last at the age of 48

Grahamstown Journal,  1881 

(Mr Harries appears to have been called Walford Harries and the son of the  " late Mr. William M. HARRIES, who for many years represented Port Elizabeth in Parliament ")

There are several other possible leads, search Henry Deare on the eggsa site

+1 vote
1820 Settlers: King Williamstown Anglican, 1851,18th February, she was with consent of parents, thus a minor at the time. Searching for birth
answered by anonymous G2G Crew (620 points)
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The indexes are curious, it seems St Mary's Port Elizabeth, Anglican is the marriage church, also on is a good profile on Henry B. Deare, b. 1826 England, son of Col. Deare and Catharine Davies (I have Brutton and Davies in my family). Name of spouse Catharina Sophia Harries (date and place of marriage left blank, you have it now). Henry Brutton Deare date of death 31 March 1893, Weston Super Mare, age 67 (66 in FREEBMD indexes) - 4 children given including Henry F. Deare. Lots of army ancestry, you should get cracking on UK army records, methinks. Kind regards, Neil, South Africa.
answered by anonymous G2G Crew (620 points)
Thank you Neil certainly a huge help
No worries, take care and good luck.

Kind regards, Neil, South Africa.

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