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WikiTree profile: Laura Bozzay
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asked in The Tree House by Laura Bozzay G2G6 Pilot (492k points)
closed by Laura Bozzay
Sorry this was a little late.  Had a power outage and even my cell phone was out (because I was recharging it... of course)  Anyway, Happy November.  Will get the puzzle and tips up ASAP!

Ok, Mission Accomplished!   I had all of the pieces I needed to bring up the chat ready and boom a power outage!  What a mess.   They are working on putting in new electric cables in our area and we have had a few short outages this one was a bit longer.  

The worst was I was cooking breakfast when the power went out and it was not done...  So I had the smell but could not eat the raw food (bacon and eggs).  Sigh...  Did not want to open the refrigerator and let the cooling out and don't have bread or cereal as I avoid them unless the girls are coming over.   

But all is well and Welcome everyone to the frantic first week of November Weekend Chat!
Thank you for hosting, Laura! Its great your power came back on, you could have fired up the grill outside to cook your bacon and eggs! :-)
Well you have to have a working grill for that!   He has needed to replace the propane tank for over a month.   With everything that has been going on it became a low priority...  besides... I have never used that 747 thing he uses... I could not even get out of the garage because I can't pull the release thing with my back and neck situation.   It was a highly frustrating morning.   Last time they at least gave us a notice but not this time.   I am assuming it was the electric company but it could have been some other utility since there is a lot of infrastructure work going on around here right now.  I opened my front door and saw a truck and went over to find out when it might be back on and the guy told me should be by 11:15 my time which is 12:15 Eastern time so I prayed and hoped for the best!
Laura, I have portable stoves that require no electricity for the exact reason you mention.
Yeah I need to look into something...   I guess I could have built a fire in the back yard but then I probably would be breaking some county ordinance and get fined!

Thank you for hosting Laura.

We have alternative cooking methods in case electricity goes out.  Here if you have no power you also do not have heat.  In the winter, that is not fun.  But at least the food won't go bad if it is that cold out. 

We do have a fire place but we use those pressed logs...  so not sure if they are safe to cook on really...
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32 Answers

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Happy fall weekend everyone. One thing I always like about this time of year is starting to cook "comfort food" that we don't take the time to fix in warmer weather.We finished a big pot of soup and just had a great meal of pork chops baked on top of celery stuffing with an apple on each chop.

Yesterday was the first basketball game of the season (exhibition game), but we did get a first look at the team for the year. We've had season tickets for this women's college team since the mid 1990s.

Genealogy wise I am about burned out on digging into land records. I did profiles for 6 of the 90 individuals in a probate notice and discovered that my gg grandmother and her brother remain a solid brick wall. My next step might be to find all Salsbury/Salisbury in the 1810 census in NY, then eliminate those also in 1820. That could be a career.
answered by Kay Sands G2G6 Pilot (198k points)
Kay I love comfort food!   We like spicy foods and one of the veggie soups I make I use Rotelle (one or two cans depending on how big a pot I am making) as the base with water at about 1 can to every 4 cups of water.  You can adjust to make it spicier or less spicy by altering that ratio.  

Then I drop in all the different veggies I have hanging around in my freezer or refrigerator where I have half bags or just a few things left.  You can also add rice or shell pasta and beans (Doug has some great ideas on that) and if you want to add meat chicken or shrimp or ham works well besides beef.  

Another quick comfort food is Pasta with tomato sauce and artichoke hearts and garlic bread.  Fast, easy and yummy!
We make "dead vegetable soup." Actually, it is actually a stock. We keep the peels and scraps after making other meals and put them is gallon ziplocks in the freezer until we have enough to make stock.

We have a number of comfort foods but one added in the past year is beans with a hard cider sauce. Cold and dreary makes everyone want comfort food.
Ah, soup is such great stuff! Of course as the daughter of a butcher, I was raised eating quite a bit of meat, but now often use it as another flavoring.

One thing my mother used to can was "Soup Mix" - which basically was canned tomatoes modified to include onion and celery.

It is interesting to see regional variations. My mother-in-law, from the south, would throw in any vegetable available. My mother, on the other hand, more of a Yankee purist, would add nothing other than potatoes and carrots to beef soup.
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Greetings from Everett, Washington!

The latest profiles: a scientist/inventor and a history professor.

The history professor https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Dunbar-3636 published a compilation of the pamphlets in the Paxton Boys case of 1763, involving attacks on the Susquehannock tribe in Lancaster County, PA.  I had not heard of this incident until I was trying to find out what the Paxton/Paxtang Papers involved.

The scientist/inventor's profile has all (well, most of) the elements of melodrama: an invention that will save humanity, a mysterious death by defenestration.  And yet--I want to know The Rest of the Story.  He was my 2nd cousin once removed. I will be looking into his wife's story today, reminding myself that these were real persons. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Renshaw-411   

After getting rained on during the cemetery tour last Saturday, I suffered more from the cold germs that traveled into my lungs and at present I am trying to talk as little as possible since my voice gives out and I start coughing.

Dale, I had kidney stones about 15 years ago and I can't imagine what a half-inch one would feel like.  Most of them I was able to pass but I did have the lithotripsy procedure that you described.  Since then I have changed my diet and have had no more incidents.

Today is my twenty-eighth wedding anniversary. My husband and daughter are working today.  After getting my daughter to her new job at the movie theater, I may have time tonight for an early celebration with him.  Vivid memories of the wedding day will soon come flooding back.  So long ago and over 1000 miles away, down in Los Angeles.  A ring that went missing during the ceremony, lack of planning (I coordinated the reception all by myself--no wedding planner--and left out a few things). I am so glad that my father was there. Now 28 years and two beautiful children later, living in a house that is all ours.  We count our blessings.

Yours faithfully, Margaret Summitt          

answered by Margaret Summitt G2G6 Mach 2 (30k points)
Happy Anniversary Margaret!

Happy Anniversary!  

And for those of you like me who have never heard of defenestration:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/defenestration  it is the act of throwing someone out of a window....   murder I think... 

One of my favorite scenes in Braveheart involves defenestration.  smiley

Happy Anniversary!

Happy Anniversary Margaret

  and many more.

Happy Anniversary, Margaret! We celebrated our 28th this past July.
I remember that scene! Nothing to break the fall but rock.
And a couple of surprised soldiers lucky not to have stood in the wrong place!
Zactly! And then the wimpy son tries to knife his dad the king.
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Someone asked me in a private message where I get some of the images I have posted.   It is a royalty free site that is ok to use in commercial locations like WikiTree.  It is called Pexels and you can find it here

answered by Laura Bozzay G2G6 Pilot (492k points)
I love that site! You can also look at https://www.stockfreeimages.com

You can also Google search, click on Images, click on Tools on the right, and then select Usage Rights - labeled for reuse. I find a lot of specialty pictures that way.
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I am back from my class. We had scheduled both Technician and General classes for today and next week. No one showed up except for the instructors. One of the instructors did not have his Extra yet so we decided since we have the building we would give the class for the Extra for him. It was a challenge because none of us had the books for that class and we did not prepare for that class. We did have the Power Point presentation for all three license levels and were able to do the class for this one man. Next week we will be better prepared but it is going to be an all day class because we have to cover more material than the other two classes combined. I also will have to brush up on the material so that I am better prepared for next week as well. I guess that means WikiTree will be taking a back seat in my life for another week.
answered by Dale Byers G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
and you were just so happy that WikiTree could again switch to the driver's seat :)

Now if I can just remember what I did with that book I had last May. I really don't want to buy that again. Seriously we have a couple of doctor visits to schedule for Diane's post op care and my granddaughter scheduled her drivers test for Tuesday so I guess the dead relatives will have to wait at least one more week.wink

Some one here once said; "they are dead, they will still be dead tomorrow."  (no disrespect intended)  So they will still be waiting for you next week Dale.  Hope you find your book and all goes well with post op care and drivers test.
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Fold 3 has Native American research open for free until Nov 15

Free access to Native American Records*

November is National Native American Heritage month. To celebrate, we’re offering free access* to our Native American collection November 1-15. Titles in this collection include:

  • Ratified Indian Treaties (1722-1869)
  • Indian Census Rolls (1885-1940)
  • Eastern Cherokee Applications (1906-1909)
  • Dawes Packets and Enrollment Cards

Plus several more titles—many found only on Fold3.


*Access to the records in the featured collections will be free until Nov 15, 2018 at 11:59 p.m. MT. Free access requires registration for a free Fold3 account. After the free access period ends, you will only be able to view the records in the featured collections using a paid Fold3 membership.

answered by Laura Bozzay G2G6 Pilot (492k points)
Thank you for sharing that resource Laura!
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Ok, I couldn't prevent Gaile to panic, but at least I could help her a little bit with the correct administrative classification of her ggranddad's birth place. I love google books just for all those old scanned books, but also archive.org is a really great resource for that old stuff.

Oh and yes, again a Canadian profile got a source (and my watchlist three new Canadian profiles).... I'm missing a feature on the watchlist: Something where we can divide "family profiles" from profiles we adopted or created, but are not related to. I think I need to ask the Tech guys here if that is possible to make.
answered by Jelena Eckstädt G2G6 Pilot (130k points)
Having adopted several hundred profiles I would love that feature
That would be cool. Someone put that in the suggestion box.
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The lesson learned from this past week's homework is to be extra careful in tracking land records (check neighbors from the census) and tax lists. Didn't go back far enough in the tax lists. Next week is a DNA exercise.

Tonight is beet canning (mostly pickled).

Tonight I'll spend some time working on some WWI soldiers since this month will mark the 100th anniversary of the end of WWI.
answered by Doug McCallum G2G6 Pilot (267k points)

Yummmmm ... beets! 

Have fun with your dna exercise smiley

Should be fun. This one sounds more doable to me. Can't share details since the family involved has restricted things as well as the class generally not wanting that. At least this time we can work with a partner so my wife and I can collaborate. The reason for not collaborating is that this is supposed to be preparatory for going for certification at BCG (Board for Certification of Genealogists). Haven't decided if I want that much stress but the classes sure make me a better genealogist.
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Thanks for hosting the weekend chat Laura and happy you are feeling better and are allowed to be on the computer a bit more again !

This year sure went fast, and shops all are preparing for Christmas here already, just a few weeks now and it's 2019 already...my hubby has his Birthday so busy weekend here. 

And the weather eeh, well fall is finally starting to kick in now, we had a long dry summer and just a little rain this week, the temperatures are dropping a bit but it's still not really cold. 

And the Netherlands has grown a bit, five new Islands were created and officially opened, not for people though ..just for nature and birds called de Marker Wadden...

Have a wonderful weekend everyone ! 

answered by Bea Wijma G2G6 Pilot (245k points)
edited by Bea Wijma
First off Happy Birthday to your Hubby.

2nd how did the new islands just appear..
What a beautiful picture, Bea!

Thanks Laura, and well they are not just appearing, they are creating them with sand, clay etc. I added a new link (short movie) about the Marker wadden. It's a huge project these five small Islands just are the start the aim is to create an area of 10000 ha (so one seventh of the Markermeer will be land/Islands in the future)  See Geography  where it says there's even a saying because there was so many land created by the Dutch: 'God created the earth, but the Dutch created the Netherlands' :P

This is really fascinating.  There is a man who came to the US from the Netherlands working with some of our cities to build water blocks to stop flooding from hurricanes and besides building these kind if islands he has advocated building parks and parking garages below sea water that are actually flood plains with fair weather community use.  Very cool stuff.
Wonderful Picture, Bea! Wishing your husband a Happy Birthday!!
is that up there in Friesland? In Germany we have the expression "Wattenmeer" for the natural protected area in the North Sea, that's why that thought pops up

And a Gefeliceert to your hubby
Happy birthday to your hubby! I hope your weekend was spectacular.
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Thank you for hosting Laura! This week was a little hectic, but good overall. I have to say my favorite thing of the week was the video chat with two of my daughters and my youngest granddaughter. I don't get to see them in person often as they live in Nevada and I'm in Kentucky. Little Havyn spent half the chat giving grandma Mindy kisses (open mouth stuck to the screen so I couldn't see her). It was simply adorable and I needed the laugh. Her mama asked the auntie why they needed to take her trick or treating when she couldn't even eat candy. Auntie replied 'so everyone can see how adorable she is in her little costume of course.' I added 'and momma and auntie can eat the candy.' ;)

Good times...
answered by Mindy Silva G2G6 Pilot (217k points)
Yes indeed on swiping the candy.  Our daughter disliked chocolate so her
Dad helped her get rid of much of her supply after Halloween.  He wasn't
above offering a penny a piece when the supply got low.  And she wasn't above accepting!!!!  Free money!!!
I handed out the candy and I asked each child if they were having fun as they decided among 6 different types the 2 they wanted (I like letting them make decisions it is good training for them and they seem to enjoy it)...  anyway one little girl said no because her mother was eating all her candy so I looked out of the door and told Mom come on in and get your own candy!  The lady called back, no I am Grandma, Mom is home sick, she ate too much candy!

Of course I burst out laughing and let that little girl take one of each!
Excellent on every point and the delegations you made.  She'll remember
your home  for a long time I think.
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My To Do list for today is simple

Get up - Check

Survive - I'm working on that

Go back to bed - planning.

Everyone is doing just fine at home today so I don't plan on doing much on or off line. I think I deserve a break so I am going to take one and do as little as possible.
answered by Dale Byers G2G Astronaut (1.2m points)
Good for you Dale!  Have a great lazy day!

And set your clocks back.  sad  Otherwise, sounds like a terrific day!

I set the clocks back before we went to bed on Saturday.
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Today is....



National Candy Day is observed annually on November 4th. Candies come in numerous colors, shapes, sizes and varieties and have a long history in popular culture.

It was in the late 13th century that the Middle English word candy began to be used, coming into English from the Old French cucre candi, derived in turn from Persian Qand and Qandi, cane sugar.

People use the term candy as a broad category that includes candy bars, chocolates, licorice, sour candies, salty candies, tart candies, hard candies, taffies, gumdrops, marshmallows and much more.

Way back in time, before sugar was readily available, candy was made from honey.  The honey was used to coat fruits and flowers to preserve them or to create forms of candy.  There is still candy that is served in this way today, but it is typically seen as a garnish.

Originally a form of medicine, candy calmed the digestive system or cooled a sore throat.  At this time, combined with spices and sugar, candy only appeared in the purses and the dishes of the wealthy.

It was in the 18th century that the first candy is believed to have come to America from Britain and France.  At this time, the simplest form of candy was Rock Candy made from crystallized sugar. However, even the basic form of sugar was considered a luxury and was only attainable by the wealthy.

Since 1979, the world has produced more sugar than can be sold, making it very attainable and cheap. 

When the technological advances and the availability of sugar opened up the market in the 1830s, the candy business underwent a drastic change.  Candy was not only for the enjoyment of the well to do but the pleasure of everyone.  Penny candies became popular, targeting children.

  • 1847 – Invention of the candy press making it possible to produce multiple shapes and sizes of candy at one time.
  • 1851 – Confectioners began using a revolving steam pan to assist in boiling sugar.

The two top-selling candies in America have been: 

  • M & M’S — M&M’s are milk chocolate drops with a colorful candy coating on the outside. The candies were first manufactured in 1941 and were given to American soldiers serving in the Second World War. M&M’s are produced by Mars Inc.
  • Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups — Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups are round chocolate disks that are filled with a sweet, creamy peanut butter filling. The cups were first manufactured in 1928 by the Hershey’s company.


Grab a pack of your favorite candy and enjoy!

answered by Dorothy Barry G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
And Dorothy did all this while recovering from a day long into the next day power outage!  So good to have her back!
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As I sit here listening to bangs, squeals and whooshes, it reminds me of the day my daughter was born. November 4th.....I looked out of the hospital window to see the fireworks exploding over London. 

'Remember, remember the fifth of November, gunpowder treason and plot. We see no reason why Gunpowder treason should ever be forgot'  http://www.potw.org/archive/potw405.html. In 1605, Guido Fawkes and others tried to blow up Parliament and we've been 'celebrating' the failure ever since.

When I was a child it was always celebrated on the fifth. Children would make effigies of Guy Fawkesand  ask passers by for 'a penny for the Guy' .The money went  towards fireworks Those names, Golden Rain, Mount Vesuvius, Roman Candles are so evocative, not forgetting sparklers to be held in our hands. I wasn't so keen on the bangers and jumping jacks .I remember choosing each individual, and tiny firework from the displays in the local newsagents.I remember my father hammering Catherine wheels into the washing line post and setting off rockets,stuck into glass  milk bottles. The  effigy of Guy was put on the bonfire to burn, we cooked potatoes in its embers.Sadly the night took its toll in serious injuries from burns so there are now very few private parties on the night and many  organised events on the nearest weekend ( so thats what I can hear tonight) For private parties people seem to now follow the US and celebrate Halloween which wasn't an 'event' in my childhood.

 In Lewes , Sussex,  the celebrations continue to be on the fifth. Its a very big event  and also commemorates  protestant martyrs from the town.  There is a big parade and it can it be very political and  very controversial. 


If I had been around in 17th century Dorchester England. ( my local town)  I would have seen a procession to church with all the pauper children bedecked in new clothing led by their teacher https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Capen-60 . Her siblings became part the puritan migration to the New World) The Rev White  would, no doubt,  have given his usual  lengthy sermon and I'd have put a good donation in the collection bag.The collections were always very high on this day. Afterwards the church bells  of the 3 Dorchester churches plus St Georges at Fordington (all withina couple of hundred yards  of each other would ring in celebration .Would I have joined the  less respectable members of the community and  thankfully retired to sink a few beers in the many alehouses in Fordington? Usefully Fordington is bounded by the Frome,  a narrow river. Many a 'wrongdoer' escaped on a plank over the river,  pulling up the plank as they disapeared into the meadows.

answered by Helen Ford G2G6 Pilot (197k points)
edited by Helen Ford
Lots of history there Helen!  In your case you are in the same place as centuries of your ancestors I find that fascinating. Probably makes it easier to identify with them.   Most of mine where in other countries 200 years ago.

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