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Welcome to the Weekend Chat!  November is in full swing.  Commercials have begun and some places are displaying holiday decorations.  We are all busy it seems!   Take a break and join us here on the Weekend Chat!

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Thanks for hosting Laura and happy weekend!

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Welcome Leah!  What is going on in your part of the world?

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Thanks for hosting, Laura.

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My pleasure.  I enjoy the great group of people who drop in.  So many really interesting people with such diverse backgrounds and interests and we have such amazing information that often comes out in posts.

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Wait, so if we select a best answer we get points deducted?

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Logan that is how G2G works everywhere.  If your post is selected as Best Answer you get extra points.  But if someone comes along later and selects someone else's answer as best you lose those points.  Because the Weekend Chat is not about Best but about Everyone Having Fun and Being Valued.  We do not use Best and will delete that marking which will deduct those points.  We just tell you why up front.

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Remember to check out posts on page 2

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Thanks Laura :) Mosty just cooler and raining (dog training in the rain is always just wonderful :p), but all 3 of my daughters spent the night with my parents last night so it's a very relaxing weekend as well!  Hope everything is going well on your end.  Are you still feeling better? ***I haven't read through everything yet so you might have already answered that***

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Thanks Leah,  I am feeling much improved.  Was able to pick up one of the granddaughters with no pain last week and am able to do a bit more on the computer but I have to say limiting it was the key to success.   So I am not pushing myself in that direction yet.  

I had Alaskan Malamutes for over 20 years.  Training is a must when you have puppies that grow into bundles of fun that can weigh 135 pounds at full growth, stand 25" at the shoulder and had to have a specially made collar for one of the bigger males who had a 32" neck.   

One of my smaller ones, a female, had a half sister that won the Alaskan sled pulling contest years ago... pulled over 2000 pounds for 60 yards from a dead stop.  

I used to throw the traces in the car with at least one of my dogs in case I ever got stuck ..  no tow truck needed!

I also had a Maine Coon Cat.  McDuff would only ride in the car if one of the Mals was there too.  He used to stand under the Mal looking out the station wagon or suv window and I am sure that caused a stir driving down the city streets.  He thought he was a Mal and would run up to people and expect to get petted.  Not very cat like...  but he was raised with 6 Mals from the time he was a small kitten.  The Mals were a fun lot...they would line up and watch repair people...  Having a sled team of dogs who can bite through rolled steel is likely a bit unnerving.  Never had to call a repair person twice.  They made sure it was fixed and stayed that way!  

My boys learned to walk pulling up on the Mals and walking with them.  

The Mals were all command trained and I am sure it was unsettling to see a huge animal like that with a toddler crawling all ove it.  But the Mals were very good with the boys as they were growing up.  My youngest son, when he was in 7th grade,  took one of them in for show and tell and explained dog training.  That was of course a big hit.

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You had Alaskan malamutes, too, Laura? Cool! We had two. They didn't like being inside the house so we had to keep them outside.

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Yep and so did George Lucas who based Chewbacca on the breed.  I get that as mine were all woodelers.

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I knew that about George Lucas's dog He rode in the passenger seat of the car, too.

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Thanks to everyone who stopped by the Weekend Chat.  Hope you have a great week and that you will join us again next weekend.

Answer 1

It is a cold windy morning here in Northeast Ohio, but not much snow. I am going to be busy with other things for most of today, Ham classes from 9 til 5 and then someone is supposed to pick up a bet we are selling this evening. Sadly I will be missing a concert my one grandson is playing in due to my teaching the ham class but it is a big honor for him. He was selected from a large number of schools to participate in a youth orchestra that only takes the best musicians from a three county area. Well I hope to stop back and check into the chat this evening after everything else is done and possibly even do some work on the profiles I manage.

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Class got cancelled, Our student got sick.

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In preparing for the class we were going to teach today I spent a lot of time reviewing my old books and information about digital logic. For one of my college classes I used to have to design circuits based on a truth table and then build them. Now I have to teach others how to do that.

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Stay warm, Dale!  A buddy of mine from Ohio said they were expecting the 'storm of the century.'  Feeling my hogwash detector ticking away, I looked it up on the National Weather Service website, and told him the expected snow accumulations were about half an inch.  I think he somewhat resented my intrusion into the drama.  Oh, well.  Pay no attention to the TV fearmongers!

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Gonna make the concert, then?

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Herbert, according to the National Weather Service, Cleveland office, the worst storm in history for Northeast Ohio was the Blizzard of 78 and we only got 5 to 15 inches of snow during that storm.

Pip I did not get tickets and it was too late to buy them by the time I got back home. So no I did not make the concert.

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Herbert, along the Lake Erie shore line in Ashtabula County, Ohio they got over 10 inches of snow overnight, We got nothing in mid Geauga County. It's all about Location.

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The man who was taking the Extra class studied on his own yesterday, he is an instructor and has access to all of the same presentations we use for the classes, and is planning on taking his test today. This causes a slight shortage with the Volunteer Examiner team because the leader of that team will not be able to participate due to the fact that she is in a relationship with him, but we should still have enough others to still do the test session for him this afternoon.

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Dale, my friend lives 50-60 miles south of Ashtabula, near the Pennsylvania line. I suppose that's far enough inland to avoid lake-effect snow dumps.  The NWS <1" prediction was specific to his area.  I don't know where he got this 'storm of the century' idea, I just assume it came from some TV weathertainer.

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Herbert, I live about 3 miles south of Chardon, Ohio. That is where all the news crews like to film when we have a lake effect storm and we have nothing, but about 10 miles north the snow really came down. The wind direction was almost exactly west to east so as the shore line moves north from Cleveland that is where the snow dumped. They are saying that some areas got over a foot of snow overnight, from reports from other spotters like me. I get my data straight from the NWS Cleveland office so it was a bad storm in some areas.

I was honestly expecting more snow than we got, but I ain't complaining.

Answer 2

Hey, everyone! I was just inspired by a thread over in Blaine Bettinger's Genetic Genealogy group and I thought we'd have some fun here. He challenged everyone to create an ad for genetic genealogy/traditional genealogy. Here's what I came up with:

We begin with a vista in a faraway place. The sun rises and we see images of cities from all over the world. Europe. Asia. Mexico and beyond. Then we focus on the people walking the streets. There are different faces and on them we see random ethnicity elements. We see people from every imaginable race.

 Playing over these images is a pop ballad. Something akin to "We are family" or something like that.

 The scenes dramatically shift using some filter that turns into black and white and everything looks old timey. Old timey music replaces the pop ballad.

 Voice over: Have you ever wondered where you come from? What is in your DNA? Finding out about the past can pave the way to the future.

 We fast forward to modern day with a young mother with a baby and she has a random DNA estimate over her.

 Voice over: Join the millions who have already searched for their roots and found connections to faraway places.

 We see Americans greeting cousins from all over the world.

 Voice over: Sign up today and find out who you are.

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 Basically I would keep it simple and to the point. People can use DNA to find out who they are related to, where they come from and what connections they can find to faraway places. This ad combines traditional genealogy and genetic genealogy and would appeal to everyone. The music playing would be Neil Diamond's America for the US audience and international would get "We are Family".

The young woman would be some random lady of any race.

How would you make an ad?

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Everytime I hear We Are Family I think of the closing scenes from The Birdcage with Gene Hackman, Robin Williams, and Nathan Lane. Absolutely hilarious.

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Hahaha! Was not my intention. Now I want to watch that movie. Eh, I could think of worse.

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Watched it four times. Laughed myself silly every time!

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We could go Disney with It's a Small World. Or go classical with Vivaldi New World Symphony or Copland Fanfare For the Common Man

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The song is apt and is an earworm. Classical sounds good for the old timey scenes.

Answer 3

Thank you Laura for hosting this weekend.

I did not work too much on my own profiles this week, I have hit another brick wall and am in the process of composing a help question for G2G.

But I did some sourcing for the November challenge.  I was also reading the G2G comments about "When does a profile have enough sources".  I am glad I am not too far off the track on sourcing.  Also discovered in that thread about  "profiles with incomplete sourcing"

We had some tremendous winds last night and with it came the first snow.  I think winter is here... sigh.

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Feel free to also post your brick wall here or the link to your G2G question.

It snowed here last night!   Fortunately did not stick to the roads.  

Sourcing is always a good thing!   One good source is all it takes but the more the merrier!

Answer 4

Greetings from Everett, Washington.

This week has been about maintenance regarding the situation with my mother-in-law.  She has dementia and lives about 50 miles south of here, on the other side of Seattle.  My husband is in the later stages of transforming her home into an adult care facility.  For one week he could not access the security cameras but he kept getting notifications whenever a leaf blew into view.  Then the place was burglarized (again!) and the pair of creeps broke into the detached office and stole some monitors.  They knew where the cameras were.

Husband went down Monday night to be with his mom.  He dealarmed the house when he went in to say hi to her but he went to the office to sleep and didn't dealarm that.  I got a call from the security company saying the place had been broken into.  I relayed it to him right away.  He got up (in his underwear) and found the squad car already there.  How do you reveal yourself to the police in that sticky spot?  The policeman came to the door and his mom opened it without checking. My husband then revealed himself and then the policeman pointed to his mom and asked her: Is this your son?  There was a LONG moment when she stared at him and didn't answer. Then at last she gave the right answer.

On Tuesday he is bringing her up here to Everett to meet with an attorney who handles power-of-attorney issues.  I hope all goes well with that.  She has not been this far in months.

Last Sunday he had an opportunity to shine when he gave a talk on the 1916 labor dispute in Everett known as the "Everett Massacre."  It was held in a waterfront tavern only about 70 yards from the dock where it happened.  Then on Tuesday he met with a reporter and photographer from the Everett Herald who interviewed him.  The article and photo appeared in Wednesday's Herald.  There's even a video of the interview posted, taken with the reporter's cell phone.

Why with a cell phone?  Well, the Herald can't afford its own equipment.  In a related matter, my husband asked the reporter if the Herald has any plans to digitize the microfilm of its early issues.  We can't afford that! she said.  It is a source of great frustration to me when doing local genealogy.  I used to use the microfilms of the Herald at the Everett Public Library but the last time I was there the ancient microfilm reader had broken down and the librarian told me there are no plans to fix or replace it because a) no one makes microfilm readers anymore and b) the parts aren't available and c) it costs too much.

These days I get headaches from reading microfilm faster than I used to.

He has given me the task of finding out genealogical information about Snohomish County Sheriff John McRae, who was the first to be shot at the Everett dock (and survived).  McRae lay low for years.  We need death data on him.  Supposedly he died in Marysville.  I am going to look online at Washington Digital Archives.

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Margaret my heart goes out to you and your husband concerning his Mom.  My Mother In Law has absolutely no short term memory.  If you walk out of her room and back in 5 minutes later she has no idea you were there...  it is so sad and she thought my husband was someone named Becky.  There are no Becky named folks in the family and his name is Ron.   So I totally understand what you are dealing with.  

Even with a security system thieves can still strike.  The best camera do not look like cameras.  A lipstick camera is about the size of a tube of lipstick.  Amazing what you can get with small surveillance equipment.  

We outfitted a location with several things that were small and did not look like a camera at all.  Discovered the thieves worked for the security company.  

Remote wifi style security systems can be easy to hack.  Hardwired with remote gives you the best of both worlds.  

As to the scanning issue... what if you got a group of volunteers with cell phones to take photos of the papers.  That creates a digital footprint and has no cost.  I have been doing that with some of my larger items that will not fit on a scanner.   Also some electronic companies might as a community service donate a scanner to the local library if they partner with the newspaper to digitize the old copies.  You might find some businesses to underwrite the activity as a grant.

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I would take "real" cameras for that, because there you can vary the resolution of the pic. I'd take the highest resolution possible. That makes then pictures of more than 2MB, yes, but there you have still well visible details if you have to enlarge the details.

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Sure if you have someone who can set up a copy stand with lights and SLRs but today, many of the cell phone cameras have very clear optics.  I use my Galaxy 9 all the time for this and the resolution is highly readable.

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Laura, I know that. My cell phone pics are also great, but when I see the pictures my mum takes with her normal camera, her pics are better when you have to go into greater detail (and need that detail sharp) and that is because she takes all her pics (and she has literally tens of thousands) with the biggest resolution possible.

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https://www.heraldnet.com/news/massacres-details-not-fully-known-but-new-sources-may-help/

I looked it up Margaret. There’s the link. Nice photo of Christopher!

Answer 5

THIS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN FUN!!

Whilst doing some sourcing, I ran across these birth records in Scituate, Massachusetts Bay:

WHETCOM, Nathanaell, TWIN (emphasis added), s[on] of James (Whetcomb), b. Aug. 19, 1697. (emphasis added)

WHETCOMBE, James, TWIN (emphasis added), s[on] of James (Whetcomb), b. Aug. 21, 1697. (emphasis added)

And mother Mary doesn't get a mention in the vital records, even though she did all the work.

What's more, Mary must have had so much fun that she did it again in 1700, having twin daughters Joanna and Mary, born March 22, 1699/1700. That time, at least, they were born the same day!

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boo to the registrar to not even mention poor Mary.

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Yikes!  I think I have seen similar things.  I would suppose but could not quickly find any supporting medical info for this... that in the case of fraternal twins where they are not in the same amniotic sac that might be ok.

Today most multiple births are handled by c-section in medical technologically advanced countries because of the complications that can ensue from multiple births.  I did find that information...

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Not in the Netherlands. Twin birth are hospital births so that if something goes amiss a ceasarian is possible but most births are natural overhere. Homebirths are the norm, when complications are expected a hospital birth has to take place and more and more people are opting for a birth hostel.

Answer 6

I just connected my part of the tree to another one. This is the 3rd connection I have made. The first one was to an emigrating brother of an ancestor in 1887, The second way back in the 1680's in the part of the Netherlands I'm living in and now a third one als o in the same area about 1754. Till now I felt not many  people of the Netherlands were in wikitree yet. Now I start to feel connected. Being a part of a web instead of only my own tree. It feels great.

a new part of the wikitree way of working opens up. Working together on a shared tree. Style differences, communication skills etc. will become more and more important. I'm looking forward to it.

In how many ways is your part of the tree connected?

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Currently I know of two connections to the big tree in my part. The first one is via Martin Luther who is an ancestor of the hubby of my gg-aunt, and the other is via one who is via a relative who immigrated to the USA and lived then in Illinois. I have other relatives (or even cousins) who emigrated to the USA, but I still have to work out if that Philipp Schupp that married a Caroline in Wisconsin is really my man. Why aren't there on Wisconsin marriage certificates named the parents? Grrrrr.....

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Eef while I am connected it took a while to connect my group to others on WikiTree.  I think as more and more profiles from your neck of the world are entered the connections start building faster.    Good work!

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I think a lot of countries are in the same situation as the Netherlands: seriously under-represented on WikiTree. But with the Dutch Roots Project, I'm hoping that we'll see more Dutch profiles on here, and get to the point where it's common to be able to connect unconnected Dutch branches within the Netherlands, rather than having to go to other countries to find connections to the main tree.

(And, of course, I'd like to see all the unconnected Dutch notables connected to the main tree, too.)

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I'm walking through the missing references tags, but actually I find myself more sourcing and "killing off" people than adding tags. Well, Eef, I need your help... I saw that Trintje Noome on WT still misses her parents, so I looked in the death certificate if there are the parents named. Yes they are. She is the daughter "van Noome, Maarten en van de Heer, Maartje." Ok, so is the LNAB of her mother "van de Heer" (my suspicion) or is she the daughter of Maarten Noome and of "de Heer, Maartje? This is for me still not distinguishable... If you want to have a look on the certificate, here it is: https://www.wiewaswie.nl/personen-zoeken/zoeken/document/a2apersonid/410342945/srcid/46164184/oid/3

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Jelena, I've looked at it and the "van" is not a part of the name. In this context it means "of". "Dochter van"  means "daughter of" and the van is repeated at the second parent.

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Dank u! That was exactly my question. So if there was a child of a let's say "van der Haar", there would be written "zoon van van der Haar, Hans en ..."? You would have twice "van" then?

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exactly!

Answer 7

Good Saturday, fellow WikiChatterers,

On the genealogy front, I made a few discoveries today working on my wife’s lines. I found a half-uncle of my wife from Kentucky who served in the Confederate cavalry, was captured and survived the horrors of Camp Douglas. He was there at the same time as many of my relatives from NC, many of whom didn’t survive.

And... another ancestor who served in the militia during the Revolution with some of my family from Mecklenburg County, NC, later moving to Kentucky.

So, all in all, a very good day, genealogically speaking. Hope y’all’s research is as fruitful this weekend.

Game is coming on. ROLL TIDE!!!

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It is always a good genealogy day when we find either new relatives or more information we did not have before about relatives we have documented.  Good job Pip!

 I have a ton of emails and boxes of info to still get through and just had another delivery show up last week.   I will be very busy in the near future...I am feeling like a slacker every time I walk past the boxes I need to dig into...

Answer 8

Tomorrow, November 11th is...

                  

Veterans Day is an official United States holiday that honors people who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces, also known as veterans. It is a federal holiday that is observed on November 11. It coincides with other holidays such as Armistice Day and Remembrance Day, which are celebrated in other parts of the world and also mark the anniversary of the end of World War I (major hostilities of World War I were formally ended at the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918, when the Armistice with Germany went into effect). The United States also originally observed Armistice Day, it then evolved into the current Veterans Day holiday in 1954.

Veterans Day is not to be confused with Memorial Day. Veterans Day celebrates the service of all U.S. military veterans, while Memorial Day is a day of remembering the men and women who died while serving.

HOW TO OBSERVE

Because it is a federal holiday, some American workers and many students have Veterans Day off from work or school. When Veterans Day falls on a Saturday then either Saturday or the preceding Friday may be designated as the holiday, whereas if it falls on a Sunday it is typically observed on the following Monday. A Society for Human Resource Management poll in 2010 found that 21 percent of employers planned to observe the holiday in 2011.

Non-essential federal government offices are closed. No mail is delivered. All federal workers are paid for the holiday. Those who are required to work on the holiday sometimes receive holiday pay for that day in addition to their wages.

In his Armistice Day address to Congress, Wilson was sensitive to the psychological toll of the lean War years. “Hunger does not breed reform, it breeds madness,” he remarked.  As Veterans Day and the birthday of the United States Marine Corps (November 10, 1775) are only one day apart, that branch of the Armed Forces customarily observes both occasions as a 96-hour liberty period.

Spelling of Veterans Day

While the holiday is commonly printed as Veteran’s Day or Veterans’ Day in calendars and advertisements (spellings that are grammatically acceptable), the United States government has declared that the attributive (no apostrophe) rather than the possessive case is the official spelling.

Thank a veteran and use #VeteransDay to post on social media.

HISTORY

U.S. President Woodrow Wilson first proclaimed Armistice Day on November 11, 1919. In proclaiming the holiday, he said, “To us in America, the reflections of Armistice Day will be filled with solemn pride in the heroism of those who died in the country’s service and with gratitude for the victory, both because of the thing from which it has freed us and because of the opportunity it has given America to show her sympathy with peace and justice in the councils of the nations.”

The United States Congress passed a concurrent resolution seven years later on June 4, 1926, requesting that President Calvin Coolidge issue another proclamation to observe November 11 with appropriate ceremonies. A Congressional Act (52 Stat. 351; 5 U.S. Code, Sec. 87a) approved May 13, 1938, made the 11th of November in each year a legal holiday: “a day to be dedicated to the cause of world peace and to be thereafter celebrated and known as ‘Armistice Day’.”

In 1945, World War II veteran Raymond Weeks from Birmingham, Alabama, had the idea to expand Armistice Day to celebrate all veterans, not just those who died in World War I. Weeks led a delegation to Gen. Dwight Eisenhower, who supported the idea of National Veterans Day. Weeks led the first national celebration in 1947 in Alabama and annually until his death in 1985. President Reagan honored Weeks at the White House with the Presidential Citizenship Medal in 1982 as the driving force for the national holiday. Elizabeth Dole, who prepared the briefing for President Reagan, determined Weeks as the “Father of Veterans Day.”

U.S. Representative Ed Rees from Emporia, Kansas, presented a bill establishing the holiday through Congress. President Dwight D. Eisenhower, also from Kansas, signed the bill into law on May 26, 1954.

Congress amended this act on June 1, 1954, replacing “Armistice” with “Veterans,” and it has been known as Veterans Day since.

The National Veterans Award, created in 1954, also started in Birmingham. Congressman Rees of Kansas was honored in Alabama as the first recipient of the award for his support offering legislation to make Veterans Day a federal holiday, which marked nine years of effort by Raymond Weeks. Weeks conceived the idea in 1945, petitioned Gen. Eisenhower in 1946, and led the first Veterans Day celebration in 1947 (keeping the official name Armistice Day until Veterans Day was legal in 1954).

Although originally scheduled for celebration on November 11 of every year, starting in 1971 in accordance with the Uniform Monday Holiday Act, Veterans Day was moved to the fourth Monday of October. In 1978, it was moved back to its original celebration on November 11. While the legal holiday remains on November 11, if that date happens to be on a Saturday or Sunday, then organizations that formally observe the holiday will normally be closed on the adjacent Friday or Monday, respectively.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Day

PS: Eowyn wrote a great post yesterday: 

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/714868/question-of-the-week-how-do-you-honor-the-veterans-your-family

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Thank you for your service, Dorothy, and all Veterans!

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Yes Dorothy thank YOU for YOUR Service!  And Thanks to all of OUR Veterans including those around the world.  

I found in doing research that one member of my family may have fought other members of my family or that of my husband.  We can't take sides since so often the reasons people did what they did are lost to history and there were many wars where people were forced to fight or family would be in peril.   

So to honor all our Veterans I offer a prayer for each person to find peace, to find it in their heart to forgive, and to work for understanding.  

Just as WikiTree understands that we are all connected, so are all of our Veterans.

Answer 9

I'm just getting on for the day.  Is there not a Saturday Sourcer for today?

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you mean the sprint? I saw the thread today...

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Should be...   here is the link

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/715292/saturday-sourcing-sprint-9-nov-2018?show=715292#q715292

Answer 10

Ugh, maxed out on 0cen Unsourced frustration.  Multiple duplicates and related profiles (also Unsourced) that are locked.  And that's after figuring out what century and country these people belong to.  Enough WikiFun for one night!

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Herb you can enter the info into the comments box of the Profile.  At least it will be there.

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Sometimes I do that, Laura.  This time I put the five locked children's birth records all in their mother's See Also.  Mom now has two merges pending, and I think when it all shakes out the kids will be unlocked.

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Herb you are so good!

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Thank you, Laura. 

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you can request the profiles to be opened. If you go on the dropdown-menu of the profile, there is a button "Request to open". I do that, and usually the latest after 2 days I get a mail: "The profile you requested is open now."

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Jelena, all of the people were born less than 150 years ago and died less than 100 years ago, and they are not orphans.  Can I use the Open Request in that situation?  I think the PM is allowed to keep the yellow locks on if he wants to.  I'll wait and see whether he responds to the merge proposals.

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Ah, I understood they were rather on the really old side of the tree. Sorry, I didn't get the "0cen"-part the way you meant it.

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No problem.  I go to Find/Unsourced Profiles, then click 'undefined.'  It returns, "Found: More than 500 profiles for "Unsourced_Profiles 0cen."  I've been calling them 0cen, but maybe The Undefined would be better.  They seem mostly to fall on the recent side, and a lot of them are probably still alive.  In this case, the triplicated profile is the PM's grandmother, and the yellow-locked profiles are his uncles.  Of course, I had no way to know that when I jumped down the rabbit hole, because the profiles gave no context at all.

Answer 11

This weekend I'm somewhere different in the world: Hawaii.  

There is a (distant) genealogical connection.  Capt. John Kendrick, my mother's first cousin 8 times removed, died in Hawaii.  He was a ship's Captain, who privateered against his father and brothers during the American Revolution, and is also infamous for shooting cannon into an unarmed Haida village. When he arrived in Hawaii to replenish his stores, he was greeted with a 13 gun salute, except that someone loaded one of the guns with real grapeshot. Oops!  

So far, my visit is going much better.

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Saints and sinners in all families.  Glad your visit is going well.  Beautiful state but the prices there are not for the faint of heart.  Always enjoyed visiting.  I still love 3 finger poi and purple potatoes.  Mahi Mahi is one of my favorite fish served blackened with a spicy sauce between tartar and cocktail.

Answer 12

Yep I have begun holiday shopping.   Started laying in food for Thanksgiving.  We host it.  Will have a smaller group this year as several are out of town this year.  

Also begun shopping for Thanksgiving / St Nick's gifts.  Something I do to give the grandchildren some fun holiday attire that they can wear to all the events leading up to the holidays.  This year they will get it on the 16th when we all get together for one of my son's birthdays.  A feast requested by him of tacos and burritos and all te fixings.  

And one or two things for Christmas.   

One of the things we do is give a family gift of memberships to some of the wonderful things we have here like the USA today ranked number one Zoo in the USA (and yes it is FREE to go) but the membership includes things like parking lots which do have a fee, children's zoo which has a fee, and some of the shows that have fees.  But he bulk of the zoo is free.   Also the Magic House which was created by some former teachers and is an educational fun place.  We have the MO Botanical Garden/ Butterfly House / Shaw's Arboretum and our Science Center to name just a few of the options.  We let the families pick up to a specified dollar amount.  Because the family memberships often allow the members to take in up to 6 others the families coordinate who gets what so they can generally all go together to the various places and it becomes a real family event.  

Also started figuring out how many cookies I need to make of what kind...  cutting back but the girls like to help back and as the 6 year old said yesterday... baking cookies together is our tradition!

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I understand your idea of a family pass to a zoo or similar business for the
Christmas gifts.  When we started going to Florida our granddaughter was two and her parents didn't have a lot of disposable income.  I came up with
the idea of a zoo pass for her birthday gift while we were not there.  I always enjoyed watching the Christmas gift openings but this was a way to broaden her experiences without having to mail a bunch of unneeded toys that her
mother threw away the minute they were ignored.  My youngest granddaughter is now ten and both families have received a family zoo pass for Christmas until the children kind of age out by 16.

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We've mostly given up on gift giving. The niece and nephews are adults now and most of our siblings don't feel it necessary anymore. So, this year we are sending things we made, mostly jams, salsas, etc that we made to those who were a bit disappointed at stopping. We're all having two nephews fo Thanksgiving since we are the closest family.

Family memberships to places they like is a great idea.

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Doug I think a lot of families struggle with the concept of gift giving as the families grow to the point where it becomes almost cost prohibitive or the population reaches the point where people pretty much have everything they need.  

Some families draw names.  Some set dollar limits.  Some set age limits.  Some do hybrids of those 3.  Some do themes like games or foods and then do something akin to a white elephant game.

There is no right or wrong answer and often different members of the family can disagree on how to deal with it.  

We often ask our elderly members to give a small amount toward memberships so that they still feel like they are giving something and it is affordable for them.  This time of year can create a lot of stressful situations and each family has a different way of dealing with it.  

Feel free to share ideas of what your family does.  

One year I made family history binders and gave one to each family.

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:Laura, I am working on family history binder/book for my siblings. I still need to get some loose ends tied up. So that might be next Christmas. The next actual project is to prove/disprove Loyalist status for a couple more potential Loyalists then get all the Patriots done but my youngest sister would also like me to find a Mayflower connection (she lives near Plymouth) before the 400th Anniversary. I suppose a binder going back to Great Great Grandparents that can be updated would be a good start.

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The ones I did I broke into centuries as I covered 6 centuries of time.  So it is able to be updated by adding more pages.  

I put the pages into plastic archival sleeves so they are protected from accidental spills and sticky fingers as the children may like to look at them as they grow up...

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I hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. The leaves have finally turned colors around here . It was a glorious day to take photos today.

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Just wow.  That is beautiful. 

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I do love the colors of fall.  But I like the temperatures of late Spring early Summer.   I always love your photos!

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What a gorgeous photo, thank you for sharing!

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Hi from East Texas! We are settling in nicely to our new home, and love the quiet countryside, my kids can’t get enough outdoor play and “hiking”  in our forest. Somehow we’ll find a sunny-enough spot for our new fruit trees we bought today!  On the genealogy side, I’ve been having way too much fun researching maps and trying to place families I’m interested in.

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What a great time to move into a new home...just before the holidays.   Build some great traditions in your new home.

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Yes, will, do! And today my husband built a log bench with the kids :)

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My plan for today is simple. Put the new bed in the spare bedroom, Participate in the VE test session this afternoon, and work on the profiles I adopted recently. Most of the profiles I adopted have no sources and very little information in them. A very large number of them do not have any suggestions either but they will have at least one source when I am done with them if I can find one. In the rare cases when I can not find a source I will at the very least mark them as unsourced but for most of them that will not happen based on my work on them so far.

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Bed is in and set up. I worked on a couple of profiles and might get a couple of others before the test session and if I am really lucky even have time to do some this evening.

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So these relationships are just driving me crazy...

Wilson and Deliverance were siblings.

Wilson had children Jared and Tabitha. Jared married Susan.

Deliverance married Samuel and had a son Samuel Jr. That makes Wilson Samuel Jr’s uncle. Samuel Jr. had a son Jared W. That makes Wilson Jared W’s great uncle, Jared his ? and Tabitha his?

But Samuel Jr married his first cousin Tabitha. That makes Wilson Jared W’s grandfather, Tabitha his aunt and mother, and Wilson’s son Jared his uncle.

That makes Susan an aunt of Jared W by marriage. When Susan’s brother Joel died, Jared W was an administrator of his estate.

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Jared (without W) was the 1c1r of Jared (with W). Same for Tabitha. And the Jared without W is on the older line.

In Serbia is all this sooo easy. There you don't have the term "cousin", they are "siblings of the uncle (or aunt)". Because we are all siblings, I am the aunt of the children of my cousins, grandaunt of their children and greatgrandaunt of the greatgrandchildren of my cousins.

The stuff is a bit complicated by the terms, because the brother of your father gets a different term than the brother of the mother. Also the parents of the husband are called differently than the parents of the wife. The siblings of the wife get different terms than the siblings of the husband. THAT really takes time to learn it. But once you got it, it's really easy to identify the relationship between the people.

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I use charts like this to make sense out of relationships

http://genealogyintime.com/articles/the-key-to-understanding-family-relationships-page1.html

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Jelena - wow, Serbia sounds like it takes some learning.

So Jared W was the 1c1r from Tabitha. Jared W was also the son of Tabitha.

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Serbian DOES take some learning. When I start talking "the way I want", not caring one bit about grammar rules or anything, mum starts joking I talk as wrongly as the farmers in the villages near the Bulgarian border. When I do care and make less mistakes, she claims I "start to move" towards Belgrade, where she is from. That sometimes drives me nuts.

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I studied Anthropology where you learn about the kinshipterms in different cultures.

In china you even have different terms for older and younger siblings and for aunts and uncles who are the older or the younger brothers and sisters of your parents.

In the Netherlands we have one word for male 1e cousins and nephews: "neef" And one word for female 1e cousins and nieces: "nicht". For all the other cousins we put "achter-" in front of the Neef/nicht.

We have different names for the different generations above us

parents = ouders

grandparents = grootouders

greatgrandparents = overgrootouders.

GGgrandparents = Betovergrootouders

GGGgrandparents = oudouders

GGGGgrandparents = oudgrootouders

GGGGGgrandparents = oudovergrootouders etc

none genealogists know only the terms till GG and keep adding the bet- part multiple times in the next generations.

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In Norwegian and Swedish you can distinguish if it's the paternal or maternal father. It's mormor (maternal grandma aka "mother's mother"), farmor (paternal grandma) or morfar (mother's dad) and farfar (paternal grandpa (Beware: now it's gonna be aristocratic!) When Carl Philip of Sweden married his Sofia, I saw her ancestry tree in a Swedish paper. That one was easy to follow: Farmorfarfarmor (as example) was the father's mother's father's father's mother....

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Woke up to a couple inches of snow and more coming down. I hadn't paid attention to the weather reports for a few days so it came as a surprise. Definitely not ready for it and this is the second time it has snowed this Fall.

Today is more time in the kitchen (cranberry butter, another batch of rosemary-onion confit and some mustards) and the canning is done.

Genealogically, want to get in a couple more WWI soldiers who were Killed in Action but this week will be spent on the last SLIG practicum problem. While a LOT of work, this has been one of the best learning opportunities I've had. The problems are intentionally quite challenging and push students to be better genealogists. Last problem is a more traditional one so might not be as stressful. After this week, have to start preparing for a trip to Salt Lake to work with films that haven't been digitized yet and get some things from their book collection. I'm trying to document a couple more Loyalists.

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Doug the Canadian Cycle Corps had a large number of KIA folks including my Great Uncle https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Penny-1014

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Yummy. Now you get to eat all the goodies. I'm certainly jealous of your sauerkraut. Nothing better than homemade!

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Hi, thank you for hosting!  A surprise snow caught us unprepared, 8 inches or more.  Leaves are still in the trees!  Sheesh.  

So, while we like that sort of thing here in upstate NY, we're not used to it without warning: frantic searching for snow shovels, boots, gloves, egads where did I put the scraper for the car!

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We had snow like being in a snow globe Saturday.  More expected this coming week. But today is cold and cloudy but no precipitation expected.

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My cousin (near Syracuse) said that they had snow predicted.

I don't miss the shoveling and driving, but its so pretty. Hope you don't have lots of problems with the leaves (since that will help branches come down).

As a kid we always used to hope for enough snow on Thanksgiving to go sledding. Sometimes we did.

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One of my oak trees lost a big branch.  Sad.  And the snow now is a sandwich with leaves below and on top.  Hard to figure how to rake at this point.