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WikiTree profile: Laura Bozzay
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in The Tree House by Laura Bozzay G2G6 Pilot (619k points)
closed by Laura Bozzay
Welcome to the Weekend Chat!  For those in the USA today is called Black Friday and is a huge sale day for Holiday Shopping.  Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving and had a nice time hopefully spent with family and friends.  For the rest of the world, we wish you the spirit of Thanksgiving which is one of being thankful for what you have.
I am sad I only have one oven but thankful that I have two refrigerators. We broke out the fine china (paper plates) to save on clean-up. I'd rather have fun chatting than clean.
Thank you, Laura, for hosting the Weekend Chat! Hope Henry is doing well and getting better.
He is holding his own.  Not home yet though...  frustrating for his parents.  I think like most parents, you just want your children home, safe, and healthy.  And parents just can't control all those variables as hard as they might try.
Thank you for hosting, Laura. Nice to hear Henry is holding his own. This is a tough thing for anyone to deal with.
Thanks Doug.  It is tough.  But everyday he gets closer to being full term and that hopefully equals getting stronger.
Thank you, Laura, for hosting this weekend in the midst of your (and Little Henry’s) difficulties. We do so appreciate it!
My pleasure...it feels normal and we more of that in my family right now
Thank you for hosting Laura and welcome back, good to hear Henry is doing well.
Thanks Nicole.  They are taking good care of him in the NICU.
Thanks for hosting Laura!  And Happy Thanksgiving to all the Americans and similar thoughts to everyone else too!!
Thanks Leah,  feel free to post what you are researchng or working on... genealogy or not.

23 Answers

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My kitchen is a train wreck!!

by Bart Triesch G2G6 Pilot (250k points)
Bart I feel for you as I just finished putting away the last of the dishes and serving pieces from Thanksgiving (we hosted).  Sometimes you just need to dig in and get it done!  We had a late lunch and most people left before 7 pm so I had most of last night to get things cleaned up.  But we had a small group this year only 7 where I normally have 15 to 30. And we have had ones that went until 2 am...   this was a much quieter and early ending one because of people in hospitals, out of town, and young children who have a bed time they need to get to...  times change as the needs of the families change...
You're sure right Laura. This year my granddaughter made creamed corn on the stove. Once I chisel-off the remnants of her effort things will be looking up!    :)

Try taking a damp rag with baking soda and water.  Lay it on the mess and walk away for about 5 minutes.  It should help loosed the goo....  

Worked! Tx.
Great!  Glad to hear it!
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Yes we are on the brink of December and full tilt for the holiday season.

So there is never enough time to do the genealogy you want to do.

So tip number one is NO GUILT.  We are all stretched and you know, profiles and paper trails will be here when things calm down.

Tip number 2 is take advantage of your family gatherings.  Ask questions and see if anyone has any info you don’t have. 

Tip number 3 is when you are feeling stressed take a break and drop into WikiTree.  There is always something in G2G that can grab your interest. 

Tip number 4 is if you need a relative to join WikiTree and they are not computer literate.  Help them do it when you are with them.  Have them add you to their trusted list. 

Tip number 5 a great stocking stuffer is to print your Printer-Friendly Tree located under Family Trees and Tools.  You will need to scroll down to find it.  And there are other options you might also want to print. 

Tip number 6 is a lot of the DNA companies are having sales right now.  Check them out at: https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart This is a comparison of the various labs by the International Society of Genetic Genealogists (the gold standard for DNA info) and it has links to the various companies.  Sales info is generally available on their websites.  Some people swear by one company vs another but I recommend you take a look at this chart so you can make an informed decision based on your needs.   Autosomal (AuDNA) is what most of us use for genealogy.  It is the least expensive of the various tests and is good for about 4 generations sometimes 5 but not really reliable much past that.  According to the grid currently the only lab to additionally offer Y or MtDNA is FTDNA.  Y is for males only and only does the surname back many generations.    MtDNA only does the mother’s line back so mother to maternal grandmother to maternal great grandmother etc.  Both the Y and MtDNA go back a lot farther than Autosomal but if no one has tested and there is no study they are not very useful to you.  So, check first to see if there is a surname project for the name you want to research.

by Laura Bozzay G2G6 Pilot (619k points)
As usual another great set of tips, thanks Laura. Hope you had a great holiday weekend.
Thanks Dean. Glad you liked them.
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Retailers Puzzle

Black Friday is a day of super shopping so I thought it might be fun to list some top retailers and you have to find the profiles for their owners in WikiTree.   Happy sleuthing…

Walmart (2 answers)





Barnes and Noble (2 answers)


Louis Vuitton

Milton Bradley

LL Bean


Kate Spade

(Coco) Chanel

Yves Saint Laurent

A docx and pdf version are located at:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rqo8mt2eobujwgd/AAAzB3IGNHqNKXBfdE985NBZa?dl=0    And the answers can be found in the Answer folder.
by Laura Bozzay G2G6 Pilot (619k points)
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Today is......



A favorite snacking and party nut is recognized each year on November 23 during National Cashew Day.

The cashew nut is a seed harvested from the cashew tree. Northeastern Brazil was the original native home to the cashew tree. However, it is now widely grown in tropical climates for its cashew apples and nuts.

With leaves arranged spirally and a leathery texture, the evergreen cashew tree grows as tall as 32 feet high and often has an irregularly shaped trunk. The flowers are small, starting out pale green then turning reddish with each one having five slender, acute petals.

The largest cashew tree in the world covers about 81,000 sq. ft. and is located in Natal, Rio Grande do Norte, Brazil.

  • The cashew tree has a fruit called the “cashew apple”.  Its fragile skin makes it unsuitable for transport.
  • Latin Americans make a fruit drink from the cashew apple. 
  • The Cashew causes fewer allergic reactions than other nuts or peanuts.
  • Although native to northeast Brazil, the Portuguese took the cashew plant to Goa, India, between 1560 and 1565.  From Goa, it spread throughout Southeast Asia and eventually Africa.
  • We often see peanuts, pecans, walnuts and other nuts sold in the shell.  Due to the toxic nature of the cashew nut’s shell, this is not possible. 
  • Speaking of the shell, the Cashew is not a true nut.  They do not develop a hard wall around the seed like a hazelnut or walnut does. Cashews instead have a lining around the seed that is filled with a caustic fluid.
  • Cashews are an excellent source of antioxidants.
  • Cashews are a source of dietary trace minerals: copper, manganese, magnesium and phosphorous.
  • Cashew oil is a dark yellow oil for cooking or salad dressing pressed from cashew nuts.
  • Many parts of the plant are used for medicinal purposes.


by Dorothy Barry G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
We love cashews and nuts! Always enjoy your Today is.... posts.
Yummy.   We often roast them (350 F for about 15 min) with various spice mixtures.

Thanks, Dorothy. We love cashews and use them in many ways. One favorite way came from a vegan cheese book. Not really cheese but its own substance. Quite tasty. A handful in a stir fry is quite good as well.

Ohhhhh, Dorothy. I have to tell my wife this one! I love nuts, especially cashews! A great stocking stuffer. Nuts for a nut. laugh

Today is also Doctor Who day. On November 23rd, 1963 Doctor Who first premiered on BBC1. =) More on that in my individual posts.

And my dad loves cashews for reasons. I think he said they help with digestion. Whatever. I don't wanna argue with a doctor.
We love cashews here too, but they never make it to the oven for roasting.  hmmm will need to hide them from my husband in order to try this.
Let him pick the flavoring!   We have used chili seasoning, BBQ rub, citrus rub, garlic salt, and others we did not like as much.  But it is fun to experiment!
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Happy Thanksgiving to WikiTreers everywhere!

Thanksgiving to Laura for hosting!

Time to appreciate all the good things we have.  We need hard times to show us how good we have it otherwise; loneliness enhances good company; the colder the winter, the lovelier the spring.  And random unsourced, undated, unplaced profiles give us opportunities to enjoy our hobby.  I'm thankful for all the friends, cousins, and interesting people I've met at WikiTree.

Yin-yang thang by Jo Nakashima.



PS - And here's a first for me!

by Herbert Tardy G2G6 Pilot (562k points)
edited by Herbert Tardy
Thanks Herb.  I have to say I like the animals better just  because they are fun!  But you are right.  We all need some balance in our life!  Happy Thanksgiving moving into... wait for it... oh no...  here it comes... Happy Holidays!
Thanks, Herbert. I missed my Tuesday Tai Chi class waiting for the county building inspector so needed some balance by today.
Is that two pieces of paper?

Excellent on the contributions. I know you’ve been working it this month.
Thanks, Pip!

It's one piece of paper, purple (really!) on one side, white on the other.
CONGRATULATIONS  !!! on your 1000 for this month.  I can so appreciate how difficult that can be.

I like the yin and yang, it is really cool - thanks for the balance.
Thanks, Nicole!  Going for 1000 contribs surely unbalanced my life and my mind.  Some people seem able to do it month after month, and kudos to them!  If I ever feel tempted to do it again, I will contemplate my yin-yang thang.
Herb  l like you have only made that mark once in a while.  I sometimes struggle to get 100 in.  Depends on what life is throwing my way!
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Happy Day After

I am thankful again today that I have had contact with so many of my friends who lived in Paradise, CA (where I lived for 25 yers). Thus far I have not received news of anyone I knew who has not been accounted for. I am thankful for the amount of support for all the displaced folks, and that not quite 2 weeks later checks from insurance companies (and maybe FEMA) have started to arrive.

The weather here is great, as it usually is. I send sympathy and aloha to anyone who is cold today. Another benefit of being isolated on an island, that is not Oahu, is that we are so far from shopping that there is no temptation to go participate in Black Friday!

I met a cousin using 23andme. He is the son of my first cousin and I met him only once, when he was a college freshman. Finding him explained two other 23andme relations! We have had fun trading pictures and stories.

Happy Fall Everyone, donʻt spend all your money today.
by Kristina Adams G2G6 Pilot (177k points)
Kristina, thanks for dropping by the Weekend Chat!  I am glad that you have had good news about people you know from Paradise, CA.  My heart goes out to the families who have lost friends and other family members as well as those who have lost homes.  Hopefully help is coming fast for them..  

Enjoy your island!
Hi Kristina! We did go shoooing today, but it was with our daughter and her fiancé and they spent the money, not us. Still worn out! Thanks for he “aloha!”
Your type made me laugh...I can see where shooting other shoppers might come in handy though

Hahaha! I just saw it! How funny! SHOPPING! SHOPPING!!! laugh

@Pip: Had to look at your '''shoooing''' a few times Pip to get what you meant.  Got stuck there until I read you didn't spend the money.

@Kristina:  I love that you are on an island, the temptation for that over shopping is limited.  And glad to hear about your friends in Paradise, it still boggles the mind on the extensive damage.
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Good evening from the old Continent,

Germans don't have Thanksgiving (at least not when the Americans party it, ours is on first Sunday in October), but they adopted Black Friday. Whereever you turned today, be it on- or offline, there was nearly an overkill with "Black Friday sales" today.

I have a question about DNA-testing, something that I'm wondering about for some months actually. How is it possible to say someone who is born in the 1600s is genetically related to somebody who made a DNA-test in the 2010s? I would get it if you exhumitated the dead one, but you obviously can't do that. So how does that work?
by Jelena Eckstädt G2G6 Pilot (464k points)
Hi Jelena.  Well if you take the Autosomal test which is generally the least expensive of the ones offered it can't.  They are accurate to about 4 generations so roughly about 100 years back if a generation is 25 years.

X for the men and MtDNA for the women traces a part of the DNA that changes very little over time...  They match you with others who share the same DNA who have also taken a test and look for your most recent common ancestor (you see that abbreviated as MRCA a lot) and that is how they figure out you are related to someone in the 1600s.  But without actually testing bones or teeth or something from a long dead body you are right, it is no iron clad proof.  It is calculated truth.
Thanks Laura for clarifying that.
Was it in an answer to a more generic DNA post?  Did you try querying for Why DNA or something in the answer that stands out?

Have looked on the DNA project help or resources pages...there are a lot of helpful articles there .  Go to Find at top of the page then select Project and then DNA.  Scroll down to see two links to help and resources pages.  I can't figure out how to paste in links to this window when using my phone to respond.
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This morning I made a lot of discoveries on one line I have been working on n and everything was going fine. Then we had to have our newest car towed to the dealer. After I sat there for about 3 and a half hours they told me that our car repair got pushed back so they gave me a loaner. I could have to go back to pick up the car in the next hour and a half but it might not be done until tomorrow.Until then I guess I will try to work on some profiles.
by Dale Byers G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
You have all the luck, Cousin Dale. I feel for you. Hang in there!
We got the car back about 5:30. There was a screw in the tire and they had a recall about something with the emissions system. They took it in on a flatbed and fixed the tire along with the recall, the total including the rental car came to $25 so I can't complain. I might start on the family line I worked on this morning tomorrow. I just feel too tired to do a good job tonight.
Hmmm WikiTree when life frustrates you might be working for you and Wikitree
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We had a great Thanksgiving. Two nephews came. One has been visiting for a few days. The other, cousin to the one staying with us, lives nearby. They hadn't seen each other in a number of years so it was nice for us to catch up as well as the cousins to catch up with each other. While they didn't grow up near each other (Wisconsin and Washington) they now have South Dakota in common.

Genealogically, I did get the visiting nephew's surname line (Dutch) back to early 1700s before he got here. Will have to tackle his Italian or Irish lines next but need to work on my own lines before our trip to Salt Lake next month.

Not much about food this week. The sauerkraut reached the desired sourness and was packed into smaller jars to refrigerate. A couple of experiments still bubbling away but need another week or so before they would be ready.

Hope all the Thanksgiving indulgers are recovering from food overload.

by Doug McCallum G2G6 Pilot (385k points)
With all the cooking going on your way, I bet the smell is heavenly. So, who does all this cooking? You, or the wife, or both?
Gathering family far and wide is what I think makes Thanksgiving so special
We both do the cooking but I've been doing a bit more recently. It changes over time.

I agree, Laura.
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Happy Week End to All!

The holidays have been very festive at my house....it was nice to have the family together. Our three cats were in full beg mode.
by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.4m points)
Our cats don’t care about “people food” even when we give it to them. Two of them were in hiding for the day.
When we had a cat he used to try to steal green beans if someone would pick him up and bring him close to where food was.  We had a small low table for the children when they were young and he could reach it easily.  We learned to put him in a different room than where people were eating.
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Are phone book entries considered a source?

I still have to confirm it with at least a second source, but it seems to me I found the brother of my greatgrandma in a phone registry of 1941.

And considering how often I had to press the "back"-button before I typed a correct sentence, it's time for me to see my bed....

Good night everyone!
by Jelena Eckstädt G2G6 Pilot (464k points)
Seems to me you could use it, if only to prove where someone was living at at a particular place at the time. However. I’ve seen errors. An uncle, for example, was listed at a certain address but he had died the previous year.
I think it is ok to use as a secondary source much like a credit in a play book with no photo but you know someone acted or sang.  These are life sources without full context.
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Happy weekend!  We survived hosting dinner yesterday and cleanup is basically done.  Tons of leftovers in the fridge, so I know what we're having for dinner.  Meanwhile, my truck is back in the shop... in addition to the alternator/battery from last weekend, it has some sort of coolant problem and has been overheating.  I'm hoping it'll be an easy fix (bad radiator cap?) but the phrase "head gasket" has been mentioned.  Ugh.  

Not much genealogy work in the past week but I took advantage of the sales at FTDNA today and got mtDNA for my mom and Y-37 for my brother.  Mom is getting my brother the AncestryDNA autosomal test that he can then upload elsewhere, too.  Hoping to do a little more WikiTreeing this weekend but I also have a big grading pile growling at me from the kitchen table.

Quick question:  sometime in the past month or two someone here linked to a nice article about why people shouldn't be afraid to do DNA testing.  I searched G2G but I can't seem to find it, and I wasn't clever enough to bookmark it.  Anyone remember it?  I want to send it to my brother.
by Lisa Hazard G2G6 Pilot (112k points)
...probably the radiator cap is OK.  May I suggest you remove it and replace the vehicle to which it is attached.  Then you'll probably be back in business.  :D
Hahahahaha! A good one, Vincent! A really good one!
I feel for you, Lisa. I’ve taken my truck in for a fix and right after something else goes wrong. I’m looking for another truck. $$$
Lisa somehow my answer to you ended up a few questions above on Jelena's post.  Using my phone for this sometimes creates unexpected operator errors
Just saw your reply, Laura.  Thanks!  I'm pretty sure it was a new post specifically about the article, not a reply to another topic.  I think it was something about "why you shouldn't be afraid/worried about DNA testing."  I searched G2G a variety of ways and also looked at the "similar questions" at the end of some of the posts that were on the right general topic.  No luck so far.  I'll check the wiki, though.
Still hoping it's something easy.  18 years and 155,000 miles on a Tacoma... there's still a lot of life left!  (Though if I keep replacing parts at this rate, I'll eventually have a whole new truck.)  I'd be happier if I really trusted my shop, but I don't.  Once this current issue is wrapped up I'm planning to try a different shop that everyone raves about.  A little further away, but worth it if they can actually fix things the first time.
I’m almost there. A new transmission, a new engine, a new fuel line....
Hose clamp!  Woot!!
Lisa, so glad it was not serious!
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Late checking in today. Took the kids, my daughter and future son-in-law, to the Asheville Outlet Mall. An almost all day event. Great shopping for them. Lots of leaning against walls for me. I spent zero $. My feet are killing me, but I got my 10,000 steps in today. 

Genealogy: working Company C, 10th North Carolina Artillery, many of whom were related to me in some way. Natalie helped to clean up my Dad’s profile, WWII sticker and formatting inline sources (Thanks, Natalie!). 

Also, I thought I had lost a whole bio with inline citations, etc., but to the rescue came several super WikiTreers. So, I’m not bald from pulling my hair out, thanks to them! I forgot two things. Too many tabs open can lead to mistakes, and there is a way to recover the data.

Thanksgiving: were cooked for 10 and four cancelled the afternoon before! Grrr. Tons of food my wife worked on all day long Wednesday. We left all the leftovers at my parents for them to enjoy. It’s been wonderful to have he kids here. The wedding is now two months away. We’ll all be glad when it’s finally over.  

Hope all of you have a wonderful weekend! You’re all special, and I appreciate you!

by Pip Sheppard G2G Astronaut (1.8m points)
Pip you are brave!  My husband decided to treat me to the day after Thanksgiving shopping one year.   I found him sitting next to another man and they both had glazed over eyes staring off in space...    He said... never again!
Hahahaha! I knew if I didn’t go I’d be in trouble. Plus, we see the kids on,y every so often, both of hem working so hard. So,mit was worth it. I didn’t buy anything, though I looked, because I kept saying to myself, “Wedding... wedding... wedding...”
Sounds like you had a great Thanksgiving, Pip. =D Well, the wedding'll be here before you know it. So, look forward to that and the partying!
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*Sees Pip raise his Captain America shield only for it to be webbed. Chris leaps over the crowd and lands by Laura and is holding the shield.*

Hi, everyone!

I'm back from Thanksgiving at my brother and his family's house. We had a great visit and yesterday we had world class lasagna and turkey with the trimmings. By "world class" I mean my mother made it  She confessed that my grandma, Ollie never taught her how to do lasagna. Or my grandfather. Or my dad. Well, maybe they helped. MAYBE!

Thanksgiving this year was also the time to bust out ye olde family tree. My sister-in-law's parents were interested in what I found for their families which go back to Sicily and Ireland. My sister-in-law's father was amazed I could find so much on the Italian side. So, I pitched Antenati and FamilySearch to him. So many Italian records. Still need to work on some OTHER towns, guys!!!

My nephew, Andrew, is now at that age where they wonder where we come from. He was curious because he wanted to know about the last name. I showed him the tree and why we were called what we are. AND as a bonus round my great-aunt sent me a deluge of pictures of my grandfather and her parents. I still need to sort through and edit them in photoshop.

I am also going to update Vincenzo Ferraiolo and Maria Tedesco 's pictures. I confess. I took pictures of them in the bathroom. It was the only place that had decent lighting and it yellowed the images. They're still black and white. The quality could be so much better and I thank my dad's cousin, Cathie, for taking pics of the pictures without a frame. They look SO much better.

I got pics from: My great-grandfather's service in WW I, My grandfather's communion, a pic drawn of my grandfather by someone in the USO and a ton of other great pics. And yes I showed the nephews. Almost quoted the movie Coco. =)  Oh and I talked to relatives in Italy and they saw the pics I put on Facebook. They wished the fam here a happy Thanksgiving and that was cool. =D

Was a very good trip. We had Indian food one night. Told Laura about that. Didn't have curry. Had Mango Chicken. Was so good!

In other news, today is Doctor Who day. On November 23rd, 1963, Doctor Who premiered on the BBC and television history was made. A cantankerous, seemingly old man, took two teachers and his granddaughter into a police box that was bigger on the inside and the adventures through time and space began.

These days the 13th Doctor, Jodie Whittaker, has been tackling social issues such as visiting Rosa Parks in Birmingham, AL and even going into the personal timeline of her Pakistani companion, Yas. Been a really good season.

Anyway, this post has gone on for a while. Thanks for the support regarding Stan Lee, everyone. =D Meant to mention that. Means a lot to me! Cheers and enjoy the chat!

by Chris Ferraiolo G2G6 Pilot (332k points)
Thanks, Chris, for holding up my shield!

I’m always glad to hear when someone finds or receives a treasure trove of old pics. Good for you, Chris! It makes so much difference to put a face with a profile.
Welcome home Chris!   Know you had loads of fun with your family and you are the "Super cool Uncle".   Yes there are times I need somebody to protect me... not often I grant you... with my resources and training I make a bad target.  But everyone has their weaknesses and that is what makes us human..  Sounds like you came back with lots of family treasure.  Good job!
Oh, you should have seen them, Laura. I was talking to the in-laws in the dining room about how to find all the info I found. I hear "Uncle Chris! We have something to show you!" from the living room.

I go in and my nephew plays a commercial that has "crazy uncle" in bold letters in it. At that point I did my Scar impression. I don't think I can do a decent Jeremy Irons.

Though, I wish I did do this when my brother came downstairs. "Why, if it isn't my big brother descending from on high to mingle with the commoners." =)

So yea ton of old pics is awesome. =D No more bathroom pics here. Surprised no one asked why there was a suspicious glare on the pics I have here.... It's fairly noticeable!

And Thanks, Laura. Though I know you can hold your own. =D
I've been enjoying this season of Doctor Who so far!  Demons of the Punjab may have been my favorite, but they've all been solid.
That ep has got to be a genealogist's dream. Rosa was great, too!
Yes this is a good new Dr Who....  What Who is your favorite?

I think Tom Baker was mine followed by Matt Smith and the David Tennant.

I also liked the River Song episodes.  Made Who more real I think.
Tom Baker is my favorite Classic era Doctor. Though, I like Troughton a little. For the new series, I like Matt Smith and Jodie Whittaker.

There's never been a bad actor to play the Doctor. Colin Baker's 6th Doctor has gotten a resurgence of popularity thanks to the audio dramas on Big Finish.

Achievement unlocked: New Picture Get: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ferraiolo-6

WW I era pic coming soon. Maybe. =)

Very nice pic. Can't wait to see the WW I pic. Be sure to post it on G2G to get more exposure!
I fully intend to. I'd like info on Vincenzo's uniform.
Tom Baker's probably my favorite of the classic Doctors.  I've loved all of the modern ones, so I can't choose.  Last year for Halloween my husband went as Eleven and my daughter and I were the Osgoods.  So now we have accessories for several of them!
That's really awesome, Lisa. =D
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Yesterday I found some good information on a line I have been working on. I am not related to this line but I am connected to them but when I told a woman her grandmothers legal name the reaction was very good indeed. In fact she called several family members to share my discoveries.I had to cut the research short due to car problems but I plan to work on this line some more today when I have the chance. The profile is https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bartholow-27 Edith Bessie Bartholow and at this time I am following the Bartholow line. I know the profiles need work but I am trying to see how far back I can go first. If anyone wants to try to add to this line or even improve the profiles feel free to jump in. We will be hosting my step son and his family for dinner with a guest cook, his mother in law, so I may get pulled away from the computer this afternoon and may not get much done.
by Dale Byers G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
edited by Dale Byers
Dale that is great!   I am finally heading to bed.  Been a long night for me.  But have a great rest of today!
Great info, Dale! Keep up the good work!
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Today is...



National Sardines Day is observed annually on November 24.

They might be packed with water, oil, tomato sauce or even mustard but they have been cleaned and cooked and are packed in an airtight container and are ready for you to eat. While some people are afraid to taste these small, silverfish, others consider sardines a delicious snack enjoyed on their own or with crackers.

Sardines are several types of small, oily fish, related to herrings. Most commonly served in cans, fresh sardines are also often grilled, pickled or smoked.  When canned, they can be packed in water, olive, sunflower or soybean oil or tomato, chili or mustard sauce.

The term sardine was first used in English during the beginning of the 15th century, possibly coming from the Mediterranean island of Sardinia where there was an abundance of sardines.

Sardines are a great source of vitamins and minerals.
From one’s daily vitamin allowance containing:

  • 13 % B2
  • .25 % niacin
  • 150% vitamin B12
  • phosphorus
  • calcium
  • potassium
  • iron
  • selenium
  • omega-3fatty acids
  • vitamin D
  • protein

– B vitamins are important in helping to support proper nervous system function and are used for energy metabolism.
– Omega 3 fatty acids reduce the occurrence of cardiovascular disease and regular consumption may reduce the likelihood of developing Alzheimer’s disease and can even boost brain function as well as help lower blood sugar levels.

Relative to other fish commonly eaten by humans, sardines are very low in contaminants, such as mercury.

Sardine oil is used in the manufacturing of paint, varnish and linoleum.

The sardine canning industry peaked in the United States in the 1950s.  After the industry’s peak, it has been on the decline.  The Stinson Seafood plant in Prospect Harbor, Maine, which was the last large sardine cannery in the United States, closed its doors on April 15, 2010, after 135 years in operation.


Share a can or two of canned sardines with a friend.  See if you prefer the mustard, chili or the tomato packed ones better! 

by Dorothy Barry G2G Astronaut (2.3m points)
I am going to pass on this one. I like most fish but never liked sardines.
Sardines in mustard sauce!  Delish!
When I was serving in Vietnam (many, many years ago) we often got care packages from home. While we loved the cookies, etc., nothing was more appreciated than cans of packed sardines! 19 year-old boys are always starving. We immediately opened all the cans and ate them on the spot!
I'll pass as well. Grew up with sardines and can take or leave them. When I did eat them, the tomato variant was preferred. My Dad loved them any way they came.

Sure, I'll enjoy a small, silver fish now and then.  But not a small silverfish.  surprise

Wow Bart, that was interesting, haven't heard that one before!! Glad they didn't spoil in shipment.
Sardines. They're decent on pizza. Bit salty for my tastes. =D
I hate tinned fish but fresh sardines grilled,  pan fried or cooked on a barbecue are delicious ; a very different kettle of fish.
+9 votes
Greetings from Everett, Washington!

It rained all day Thursday.  My daughter was expecting to work long hours at the movie theatre at the mall Thursday and Friday; however, her manager sent her home early both days.  I was expecting to have difficulty getting near the mall parking lot, but pleasantly surprised to find things as usual at the theatre end.  We did have difficulty finding a parking space last night.

Bart, my kitchen is always a train wreck.  No counter space, temptation to use paper plates, etc.  In the downstairs kitchen the counter is stacked with genealogy papers and binders full of periodicals.

Chris, my daughter is partial to Tom Baker as the fourth Doctor.  She wears the scarf/muffler and we have matching 4th Doctor cardigans we got at Hot Topic.

I want to give a big thank you to those family researchers who have passed on in recent years and circulated their research among us.  Even unsourced family group sheets have helped me.  I am going through piles of stuff that I haven't looked at for 20 years or so, and then when doing internet searches I discover the names of these researchers who shared with others who received different information than I did.  It all helps.

My watchlist is brimming at close to 5000 and I am forced to send in-laws and more distant folk out "into the wild." Really interesting profiles sometimes don't get adopted--at least not right away.  Oh well.  I don't know who adopts the quilts I make either.
by Margaret Summitt G2G6 Pilot (107k points)
We went to see Fantastic Beasts 2 last night and there were empty seats. The mall didn't seem crowded, either.

They call Camano part of the "sunbelt." As I watch it rain nearly every day I wonder what the word sunbelt really means?!


Camano Island WA
Good point about the genealogists who started research we often add to

It rained yesterday but today is beautiful.
Ah, the 4th Doctor scarf. I so want one of those. =D There's a story behind the creation of the scarf. Apparently no one told the person who made it when to stop.
I always loved that scarf...   Wonder why it does not come back with more of the doctors like the Fez did...
Well, Osgood wore it and it could be argued that the design on 13's shirt resembles the scarf.
+5 votes
Today is off to a bad start. The warning lights came on again on her car so we will have to rely on my car today, small and uncomfortable, and call the dealer tomorrow morning to have her car towed back in so they can try to fix it again. I did not get much done yesterday on WikiTree but it was a good day otherwise. We had family over for dinner and the one granddaughter just did not want to leave, the other three had to go to work. That gave the youngest one more time to spend with her two grandmothers and me. Well I guess I will try to work on some profiles now so back to the tree.
by Dale Byers G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)
I actually got quite a few edited including one profile connected to the wrong parents. I removed the parents, added a profile for the correct father along with profiles for 4 siblings. Not bad for less than one hour.
Dale I think you and I are living lives filled with challenges and doing the best we can with them.  I feel for you.  Glad you turned it into something positive though.
+7 votes
I visited today my aunt and we went on the cemetery to the grave of my grandmother. My aunt lives in the region where my ancestors are from, and so on the cemetery I looked at the names of the graves and thought: "This one could be related to us and that one too, and this name I know from my tree too." We then went a bit for a walk there to visit the graves of some friends of my grandmum. That way I even saw more graves than I normally would have seen. It was interesting to say the least.
by Jelena Eckstädt G2G6 Pilot (464k points)
Visiting cemeteries is something my wife and I like to do. Going with an older relative must have been extra nice. In any case, I usually react like you in wondering how this one or that might be a relative. It is really nice that you had that opportunity today.
There's one cemetery in Haverhill I haven't checked out. My great-grandparents are buried there along with several Legaults and a few Felkers. I've always gone to St. Patrick's as that's where my paternal grandparents are buried as well as the great-grands.

Cemeteries have a lot of great info!
You guys actually don't know how grateful you can be for your cemeteries. In Germany graves are leveled after a certain time. That means you "rent" a grave e.g. for 25 or 40 years. I heard today that the crematory grave of my grandmum is only for 15 years. Mum bought the grave of my dad for 40 years. But on our cemetery there are already many graves leveled. I just saw an announcement in the local paper of my ancestor's town that the families of some should prepare the graves of their dead ones, because their right of use expires at the end of the year and the grave will be levelled on next Apr 30.

In Serbia the system is again a different one. There you pay every year a certain amount and then your grave stays "active" or "alive". So there are in Serbia on the cemeteries (family) graves where the first person was interred e.g. in the 1850s and the currently last one in the 1980s. THOSE graves are really interesting, there you can learn so much about the history of families.
What I find incredible is the number of old, yet legible gravestones in the US. ( or at least on Findagrave) I know where my 19th C ancestors were buried but none have a gravestone. They might have had a wooden cross at the time.  My husband's ancestors were more wealthy and some 19h C members  are buried in a family plot in a village parish churchyard.  I can only read a few words on the stones and only know what part of the inscription should say  because someone recorded it many years ago. This isn't odd, I can wander through an old churchyard and find very few of the older stones still bear legible inscriptions.

( just find it odd that there appears to be less lichen and weathering on the FAG stones I see)
I love cemeteries.  They are generally peaceful and have trees and flowers besides the grave stones that are always interesting.  It is interesting to see how long different cultures leave a grave site protected for the departed relatives.  

My family had a tradition when I was growing up of going to the cemetery once or twice a year and washing the gravestones with mild soap and water.  That might be why some US gravestones are so readable.  I remember getting to do the lamb that was on my great uncle's grave who died as a child of whooping cough in the 1800s.
Cemeteries were places for picnics. In my Dad's hometown they have picnic tables setup at the cemetery just for that purpose. In my hometown, my Dad was cemetery commissioner so we spent a lot of time helping keep the cemetery looking nice. We had picnics there as well. While my Dad didn't do genealogy, he would go out to one of the cemeteries and take photos of stones that people wrote to him asking for information about.
+6 votes
by Bart Triesch G2G6 Pilot (250k points)
edited by Bart Triesch
Really like the picture the link is to, Bart. Is this a photo of the puzzle you are working on?
David, I messed up and didn't give the photo a caption! This is a beach near my house. I live on Camano Island in the Puget Sound (Washington).
Very nice.  Looks peaceful.
Bart, I just saw this. What a beautiful scene!
Thanks Pip. This beach is part of Camano Island State Park. This time of year I'm usually all alone here.
Perfect time to be there, Bart!

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