I'm looking for information on Stephen Morton 1799-c 1870 of Wilthsire, England. Immigrant

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I am related via mother's mother who was Florence Catherine Morton.

This is one of my problem pillars.   Grandma's mother is an even bigger problem.  (Lyman is the surname).

Thank,

Rebecca
in Genealogy Help by Rebecca Snider G2G6 Mach 1 (13.3k points)
edited by Maggie N.

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The internet suggested spelling of "Wiltshire." Do you have name of wife and or children? Parents names would be helpful and marriage year and location.

Where did Stephen Morton immigrate to, what country, province or state, county or city?
by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.1m points)
selected by Maggie N.

oops.. fingers must have gotten twisted.   Sorry. Yes,  it should be Wiltshire

Stephen's Parents are George Morton and Mary Ridby  I don't have dates and uncertain of this.

No known wife to Stephen. 

Stephen's Child is John Morton (1826-) my GG Grandfather.. again, uncertain.

Stephen's Grandchild (if I'm right) is Clarkson Smith Morton (1852-1915) my Great Grandfather.   THIS part of my tree I am 100% sure of as I was raised by my Grandmother, and she talked many times about Grandpa Clark and Grandma Ella. 

I built this part of the tree more than a decade ago (starting with me) and have been able to add few things via Family Search and Ancestry.  I simply match patterns not cold hard facts to this side of my tree, so from my G.Grandfather Clarkson back could be wrong.   I do not use Ancestry or trust at all, so links to there are useless.   I matched names and circa dates to Family Search.  My tree isn't published so it hurts nor adds to anyone else yet... just mine. 

Hope you can find something to help that is reliable and a good source.

Sincerely,

Rebecca

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Clarkson S. Morton was born 1852 per familysearch.org .

He died in 1915 and was buried at York, York, PA in Greenmount Cemetery.   Find a Grave, ID 88919369..

Clarkson S. Morton married Elwina Lyman on 24 Mar 1874 at Christ Lutheran Church, York, York, PA    familysearch.org  FHL microfilm 1,320,516.
by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.1m points)
Yes.. this is my G. Grandfather and my G. Grandmother.    Her name should have shown as Elmira Ellen Lyman but Grandma always called her Ella and the grave marker shows Ella..  They are both buried at Greenmount.   Do you have a link to the Family search microfilm location?   I will look at that.  

These G. Grandparents are not in doubt.. it's the generations older than John that I can not verify.  

Clarkson's father was John, does have the 1860 census attached to my pages showing Clarkson as his son.  

I got all this information from Family Search without more certification.  

Thanks for the links for me to add to my tree .. I truly appreciate it.

Rebecca
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In 1870 all three, John 44, Clarkson 18 and Stephen 71 were living in the same household at Lower Chanceford, Pennsylvania. All give Pennsylvania as their birthplace. What's the evidence that Stephen was born in Wiltshire, England?

The parents you show for Stephen, George Morton and Mary Rigby, look questionable. They were both from Lymm, Cheshire, where they both died, 200  miles from Wiltshire. Without a baptism for Stephen how have you established his parents?  There was a Stephen Morton living in Wiltshire in 1841 aged 40 ie 40-44, but your man was living in Pennsylvania at this time
by David Cooper G2G6 Mach 1 (12.6k points)
John was the father of Clarkson and I have a copy of the 1860 census showing John 34, Catherine 34, Clarkson S. 8, Sarah 6, Samuel S 4, James 3, and Christiana 2.    But it's not showing Stephen which should be the father.   Yes they lived in lower Chanceford, PA.   Sunnyburn was the name of the town from what my grandmother told me.  

I agree that George and Mary do look questionable but I'm glad to know that Stephen was the right father.    My records (that I was sure of) were for John but now I know (from your message) that Stephen was the father.   Can you tell me where you got that information as it's not on the 1870 census that I have.   The only Stephen on that census was a son, age 14.  

I'm in contact with the one who set up the Morton profile on Family Search and I'm watching her postings.  

I found the other names (George and Mary) via Family Search and matching patterns of names and leaving all other information "open" in my tree information.   I've been searching for this side of my family for decades and your mention of Stephen living with John in 1870 is one more piece of my sketchy puzzles.  

Thanks so much

Rebecca
Stephen is at the top of the following page of the 1870 census. You may be able to recognise the names of the two children under Stephen who were part of the same household.

David
In 1860 Stephen age 71 born Pennsylvania was living in Lower Chanceford as shown on FamilySearch - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXRC-CQ4. So in both 1860 and 1870 he gave his age as 71.

The more I see of Stephen the less I think he was born in Wiltshire England in 1799.

David
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There is certainly a Stephen Morton of the right vintage in Wiltshire in 1841, he is a grocer, wife Lucy, children Stephen and Alfred(?). They are in Salisbury St Thomas.
by anonymous G2G6 Pilot (255k points)
This is the Stephen I referred in my reply yesterday, who can probably be ruled out, as the Stephen in Pennsylvania was living there in 1826 when his son John was born. And if the Pennsylvania Stephen was born in 1789 as indicated by the 1860 census rather than 1799 as shown in 1870 then I'm pretty sure the 1841 Stephen can be discounted

David
Thanks gentlemen.. I agree, David.   You follow patterns which is how I usually match names.   Dates, places, and even names within families.   We all know how similar names can confuse family trees.. ughhhhhh   In the last 2 weeks I've redone 2 ancestors who were linked to the wrong brother.    It's been a fun week.

I will remove the Wiltshire location for Stephen from my tree.   I can always add it later if more information comes to light.

I am sincerely grateful for your help.  
Rebecca

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