Does this German baptism record seem to represent the same Wilhelmine Weinert?

+1 vote
101 views
I was poking around my brick wall ancestors and I ended up looking for any records about my great-great-great grandmother, Wilhelmina "Minnie" Weinert.  According to census records, she was born in March 1852 in Germany.  She emigrated to America and lived in Kansas with her husband, Robert Lungwitz.  He also was born in Germany.

I found a German baptism record for a Marie Wilhemine Weinert, born 25 March 1852.  She was baptized 18 April 1852.  Google translate tells me that she was illegitimate, and the record only names her mother.

For comparison, FamilySearch also gave me three other German baptism records.

*Wilhelmine Pauline Weinert, born 20 April 1851

*Emma Auguste Luise Wilhelmine Weinert, born 26 February 1853

*Clara Augustine Dorothea Wilhelmine Weinert, born 8 January 1853

These other records don't appear to match her at all, as they were all born in different months and years than Minnie was.

Given how the record is for a Wilhelmine that was born in March 1852, I'm inclined to believe that this is the baptism record for my great-great-great- grandmother, with her mother's name included.

Can anyone take a look over the record and lend their thoughts on the matter?  Here's the link.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPF9-BGLC

Note that I added this record to Minnie's sources.  I will move it to a "see also" section if there is disbelief that this is her.

Does this appear to be my g-g-g-grandmother?

The name Wilhelmina Weinert for Minnie comes from Minnie's daughter's certificate of baptism, which my family possesses. It is transcribed on her daughter's profile.
WikiTree profile: Minnie Lungwitz
in Genealogy Help by D. Botkin G2G6 Mach 3 (34.1k points)

4 Answers

+2 votes
 
Best answer

The immigration record at FamilySearch shows Wilhelmine Weinert with Dorethea Weinert and Carl Weinert traveling together. They departed from Bremen aboard the ship Johanna and arrived at the Port of New York on May 16, 1866.  Wilhelmine's age on the record is 14 which would make her birth year 1852, matching your other records. Based on this I believe you have the correct record.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV3Q-S3LM 

by Dennis Heltemes G2G2 (2.9k points)
selected by D. Botkin
I had found a FamilySearch entry for that same record yesterday, and I did believe that it was also her, but there was no picture included.  This one has a picture and it includes a mother also named Dorothea!  With an age for her!  Plus another relative named Carl Weinert age 19, most likely Minnie's brother if I had to guess.

Thank you so much for your help, everyone.  I now have a lot more info on what I need to research.  This brick wall is coming down. :)

Agree with Dennis, since Dorothea is in both records. Just a word of caution regarding FamilySearch transcripts:

Event Place:Ogkeln, Ogkeln, Schnackenburg u Sachsen, Ogkeln, Hannover, Preußen

The Ogkeln in question as birth place is a district of Meuro which was until 2009 an independent village, then incorporated as a district into Bad Schmiedeberg. Nothing to do with Hannover at all.

+1 vote
I would have looked at the record, but I am no LDS-member at FamSearch and don't have an ancestry subscription, where the digitized pictures are also available. Sorry I am of no use here. What I can see by looking at the "donator" of the record I see that the source comes from former East Germany. Ogkeln still exists and is searchable on google maps. Maybe that can give you some more clues.
by Jelena Eckstädt G2G6 Pilot (693k points)
+1 vote
There are several ways you can confirm whether this is your ancestor. (1) find a record of her arrival in America. It often states fairly specifically where a person came from.

(2) Check later records from the parish to see if that Wilhelmine died as a child, married there or simply disappears.

(3) who were siblings or other records, found in the parish register- do you find any  of them arriving in America with her or living near her in America.

Don't give up- You might find that one piece of information that either confirms or totally discredits your suspicion that this is your ancestor's birth record.
by Daniel Bly G2G6 Mach 5 (56.8k points)
+1 vote
I looked at the digital images of the original record, and also discovered that Johanne Dorothee, unmarried daughter of Christoph Weinert also had a son, Carl Moritz, born April 22, 1847.

Also from "New York Passengers and Crew lists, 1820-1957 at Ancestry I found where Dorthea Weinert, age 49, Carl, age 19 and Wilhelmine, age 14, all from Prussia,  arrived in New York May 16 1866, aboard the steamship "Johanna" out of Bremen.

I could not find Dorothea or Carl in a quick look at the 1870 census, but hope this give you something to work with.
by Daniel Bly G2G6 Mach 5 (56.8k points)
This is so incredibly helpful!  I love how each answer given builds off the previous one!  I was hesitant to ask for help but now it seems I made the right decision by asking!
Can you send me a link to the digital images of the original record?  I would really like to see for myself and use it in my sources!!

Related questions

+2 votes
1 answer
77 views asked Jun 27, 2017 in Genealogy Help by Helen
+4 votes
1 answer
+2 votes
1 answer
58 views asked Dec 1, 2020 in Genealogy Help by Rodney Power G2G4 (4.5k points)

WikiTree  ~  About  ~  Help Help  ~  Search Person Search  ~  Surname:

disclaimer - terms - copyright

...