Have Magna Carta ancestry? Come join the WT Magna Carta Project. [closed]

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Does your family tree have a proven or as yet unproven connection to a Magna Carta Surety Baron?  Perhaps you have a Magna Carta Project Gateway Ancestor (as found in Douglas Richardson’s Magna Carta Ancestry) in your family tree?  Perhaps the WikiTree Relationship Finder has indicated that you are a potential descendant of a Magna Carta Baron? Or maybe you are just curious about the Magna Carta project or have an interest in Pre-1700 research? If so, membership in the Magna Carta Project may be for you.

What's required to join? Joining is easy. The main requirements are to have been a member of WikiTree at least 3 months, have a Pre-1700 Badge, and select a Gateway Ancestor (see the table [here]) to be Guardian of. Project members help develop, source and improve the profiles of project-approved family trails from a Gateway Ancestor to a Surety Baron. Although it is helpful if you have some experience researching pre-1700 profiles it is not required. It is a skill that you can learn and improve upon as you work with the project. Nor do you have to be Pre-1500 Certified, but it will be of benefit if you are. Membership in this project will also give Non Pre-1500 members the opportunity to sharpen their research skills and to gain the experience needed to meet the requirements for Pre-1500 certification and badging.

Being a Member of the Magna Carta Project

See this page for requirements. 

The Magna Carta Project is not for the faint of heart, but it offers a unique opportunity to collaborate and learn. Magna Carta trails will take you from British colonial immigrants in the New World (New EnglandEarly Pennsylvania Settlers, the Southern Colonies) to nobles in the British Isles from the Renaissance and Reformation all the way back to the High Middle Ages. The research skills needed in each area and era are quite different and can present a challenge and growth opportunity.

Trails from Gateway Ancestors to the seventeen surety barons from whom they descended average fifteen to twenty generations. This means we have several thousand profiles needing our attention—not to mention their immediate families (parents, spouses/partners, and children)—everything from basic date and parentage validation and sourcing, to more elaborate dispute resolution and biographies! Fortunately, the trails overlap as we work back into history, so we can work together on those shared ancestors. No matter what your experience level is today, you'll be amazed at how much you can learn about genealogy working on this project!

Besides Magna Carta Project membership we also have Magna Carta Affiliate Memberships available for those who prefer to work at their own pace or who are not ready to take on the responsibilities of Project Membership and who may want to have the opportunity to develop stronger research skills.   

If this sounds like something you want to be a part of, let us know by replying to this G2G topic.

in Requests for Project Volunteers by David Douglass G2G6 Mach 8 (88.1k points)
closed by David Douglass

I found a Gateway Ancestor, Katherine Marbury Scott, and I'd like to join the Magna Carta Project.

What is the next step?


Hello Dawn,

Katherine Marbury Scott is in a badged trail but looks like a candidate for an update.  I think that she would be available to you as the Gateway Guardian of this project approved Gateway Ancestor.   I will get you project badged here in a short while and then send you more information about the next steps you will tale as a project member.

Welcome to the Magna Carta Project !

David Douglass

14 Answers

+3 votes
I have one gateway ancester: I found on the list: Frances Deighton. However when when with Talbot and Courteney ancesters the relationship finder indicates I am related to all 15 of the Magna Carte list. I would be very interested in joining.
by Jacquelyn Alvord G2G1 (1.7k points)

Hello Jacquelyn,

Thank you for your interest in joining the Magna Carta Project.  We have two membership levels that are open to Wikitree member genealogists.  Please review the following page for information on joining and membership requirements for each of the two levels.

Magna Carta Project Membership requirements

Contact me if you have any additional questions.

David Douglas, Co-leader

+2 votes
I would like to join. Gateway ancestor is Edward Littleton-57.
by Gerald Jones G2G6 (6.4k points)

Hello Gerald,

Thank you for your interest in joining the Magna Carta Project.  We have two membership levels that are open to Wikitree member genealogists.  Please review the following page for information on joining and membership requirements for each of the two levels.

Magna Carta Project Membership requirements

Contact me if you have any additional questions.

David Douglas, Co-leader

I would like to be Guardian for Thomas Lloyd (1640-1694) and be a Badged member of the project.

I will be contacting you by email soon.

I would like to withdraw my request. I have enough going on right now.


Best regards,


I understand.  Sometimes we can get spread too thin.  

Happy New Year to you

+2 votes
I have four ancestors who were Surety Barons:

William de Mowbray (direct ancestor)

Richard de Clare (an uncle)

William Marshall (direct ancestor)


Sir Gilbert de Clare (direct ancestor)

While I don't know if I can offer you a full commitment I can offer as much info as I can!
by Ruth Khan G2G Crew (500 points)

Hello Ruth,

I am responding to your G2G post regarding Magna Carta Project membership.  We welcome your interest and want to let you know that there are two levels of membership in the project that are available.

Here is a link that will give you more information about both levels.  You can review the requirements and responsibilities for both and then let me know which one you would like to participate in.  

 Magna Carta Membership Levels and Requirements

I look forward to hearing from you. I am available to answer any questions that you may have in regards to Magna Carta Project membership.

David Douglas  

Co-Leader, WikiTree Magna Carta Project

I am related to all but about 3 no relation on your Magna Carta list and all of the remaining are Grt some level grandfather's with the rest are 1st cousins with removes.. so at some point I will join.. also related to 85% or greater of the president's.. my 4th great grand mother is Sarah Runnels Bunker -194
+2 votes
We have communicated previously. I want to start as an affiliate. I think I have more than one gateway ancestor, but I will start with Mary Wolseley Brooke, Wolseley-16.
by Ken Pittman G2G Crew (780 points)
Thanks Ken I've posted a comment to your profile.

David D
+2 votes

I'm interested in joining the Magna Carta Project, particularly as an Affiliate (until I get better at the pre-1500 research). 

My gateway ancestor is Edmund Hawes (Hawes-23), who has a pending trail and I would love to help prove this trail (and learn about pre-1500 at the same time). 

Luckily much of my documentation has been completed proving my connection to Edmund as I proved my connection to his grandson, Benjamin Hawes, while completing my successful application to join the General Society of Mayflower Descendants.


Hi Denise

I may have already posted a response to you but if not please provide me with your WikiTree ID so I can respond directly to your request.


David Douglas

+2 votes
I'm related to Gateway Ancestor Rainsford-3.  I'd like to join as an Affiliate, as my research time is limited.

Canadian genealogists had identified my line several years before I became interested in genealogy.  Please email me if you have questions.
by Janine Barber G2G6 Pilot (138k points)
Hi Janine

Thanks for your interest in joining us.  I posted a response to your WikiTree profile.

David D
+2 votes
I am interested in joining the project. My 24th great-grandfather was William Malet.
by Hugh McNichol G2G Crew (510 points)

We look forward to having you as a member of the project.  I posted a response to your WikiTree profile.


David D
+3 votes
I have several gateway blood ties to this project and would like to be on.
Hi Rachel! Could you let us know your WikiTree ID?
+2 votes


There is a direct ancestral relationship. William (Albini) d'Aubigny is the great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grand father of Bill Fikes Jr..

William is the 25th great grandfather of Bill

by Bill Fikes G2G Crew (870 points)
My gateway ancestor is Thomas Batte, but I'm sure I have more than him as my family is humongous. I've also reached out to join the Google group.

I'd love to join this project.
Hi Chelsea! I think you found the old Google Plus group. I've added you to https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/wikitreemagnacarta

+2 votes
My ancestor is Thomas Batte and I have requested to join the Google Group. Would love to be a member of this project.
by Chelsea Hoffman G2G Crew (420 points)

Hi Chelsea & Welcome :D

The project has two levels of membership - You're all set as an affiliate member. Requirements for badged members are detailed on [this page]. You'll be eligible in a couple of months (one of the requirements is to have been a member of WikiTree for at least 90 days).

Cheers, Liz

+2 votes
I was directed to this project by Darlene Athey-Hill. I would like to join the project. My wikiitreeID is Benson-4932 (I have several direct ancestors that can be traced back to the Magna Carta). Anything I can do to help please let me know.
by Carrie Benson G2G Crew (860 points)

Hello Carrie

Thank you for your interest in the Magna Carta Project !  I've posted a response with some additional information to your WiliTree profile.

Best regards

David, Co-Leader

+1 vote
I would like to become an affiliate member of the Magna Carta Project. Much to my surprise,  I find that I am a descendant of several of the Surety Barons.  

I do not have the skills required for a badge but I am hoping that I can learn some of those skills by watching you and helping.

Terri Clawson Swift  Clawson-1056
by Terri Swift G2G6 (8k points)
+1 vote

I believe I am descended from King John and all of the surety barons who have descendants. At this stage I am of course relying on Wikitree’s genealogy. I wrote about the connection on my blog at https://ayfamilyhistory.com/2019/04/20/r-is-for-runnymede/ 



by Anne Young G2G5 (5.4k points)
+1 vote
I am interested in being a Magna Carta Affiliate Member. Please let me know if I am approved. My 21st Great-Grandfather was Henry (Bohun) de Bohun. All of the additional members were cousins. Thank you for your consideration. LaNita (WASHBURN) Daniels
by LaNita Daniels G2G1 (1k points)

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