Can someone take a look at Jonathan and Gretta (Holman) Osborne and improve their profiles?

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There are currently two profiles for Gretta, born 20 years apart, with a lot of conflicting data.  They appear to be Gedcom imports.  I also need help with Gretta's parents and grandparents if possible.  Any help would be appreciated.  I'm not experienced enough for this.
WikiTree profile: Jonathan Osborne
in Genealogy Help by D. Botkin G2G6 Mach 3 (33.9k points)
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Those profiles are part of US Southern Colonies Project.

It also is full of conflict. I think it is well above the abilities of many of us.

Hopefully someone will come along with help.
by Marion Poole G2G Astronaut (1.1m points)
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I see references to fraud being committed by a Genealogist many years ago, which has unfortunately been widely shared and has lead to much confusion and doubt.

Advise extreme caution to anybody attempting to correct these profiles.
by Andrew Ross G2G6 Mach 2 (26.1k points)

From Ancestry and Find A Grave:

Birth:  1701
Virginia, USA
Death:  1796
Virginia, USA

STOP THE MYTH
SEE BELOW
Gretta Holman

Parents Abraham Holman and Jane Moon

Birth 
1701 
Location
VA, Williamsburg 

Death 
1796 
VA, 

MYTH
Current information indicates that in the 1930s, Will Daniels, an attorney at law, hired a 'professional' genealogist from Pittsburg, PA to find the parents of Ephriam Osborne of Grayson Cty Va

FRAUD STARTS A MYTH
The genealogist MADE up Jonathan Osborne married to Greta Holman, TWO REAL PEOPLE NOT CONNECTED TO DANIELS' FAMILY. 

He evidently figured since someone hired him they didn't have time or ability to do the research on their own.

At any rate, Will Daniels finally discovered he had been hoodwinked, but not before he had spread this stuff all over New River Valley and beyond. 

The FRAUDSTER did some research on the Hashes which is still causing problems with that family history too. 

When reputable people tried to obtain more information they could find no records. 
An investigation of the professional revealed that he was prone to invent something to satisfy his clients.

THE REAL TRUTH
There is a Gretta Holman and a Jonathan Osborne who were married in Jamestown.
THEY DID HAVE KIDS.
THEY DID NOT HAVE A CHILD EPHRAIM OF GRAYSON CTY VA NOR ANY OF HIS KNOWN SIBLINGS.

PLEASE HELP US TO STOP THIS MYTH.

IF YOU COME FROM GRETTA'S LINE PLEASE HAVE YOUR DNA DONE SO WE CAN PUT THIS TO BED.

PLS CONTACT ME WITH INFO ON GRETTA.






 
 
Family links: 
 Spouse:
  Jonathan Osborne (1697 - 1761)*
 
*Calculated relationship
 
Burial:
Body lost or destroyed
 
Created by: Carole Conrad
Record added: Mar 03, 2015 
Find A Grave Memorial# 143299942
Here is what I think:  We know for sure:

1.  The DNA of the Descendants matches the DNA of the Descendants of Stephen Osborne b. 1634 that married Sarah Stansborough.

2.  Stephen's Brother is John Osborne b. 1631 married to Mariam Rebecca Hand.  It is John's Descendants that make the match, that believe that James Osborne that married Ann Carter is the Parents of Jonathan Osborn b. 1701 in Va. that Married Gretta Holman.  

3.  The DNA IS THE PROOF: that they belong to John Osborne b. 1631 and Mariam Rebecca Hand.

4.  So what about the fraud?  1.  I think the genealogist/ or researcher could have miss-spoke!  If maybe he ment the women were born in Warwickshire, Warwick, England and came to America.  This is the "only way" the information could fit.  Because at the time John Osborne b. 1631 and Mariam Rebecca Hand's children were young, so they were not back in England at the time.  They would not have left their kids to go have the last child in England and then for him to do the same!  I believe the researcher/genealogist must have miss spoke!  Having said this, we know for sure the DNA matches the other brother's DNA.  

Thomas Osborn b. 1594/5 m. Mary Goatley

Children:  Thomas Jr., Jeremiah, John 1631, Stephen 1634, Richard died age 6mo., Joseph, Rebecca, Increase, Benjamin.

John Osborn 1631 m. Mariam Rebecca Hand

James Osborne m. Ann Carter

Jonathan Osborn m. Gretta Holman

Ephraim Osborn Sr. m. Elizabeth Howard 1714-1785

Enoch Osborne Sr. m. Jane Hash

Solomon Osborn

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