Maybe Ancestry.com Hints can help, but this family's constellation is wrong somewhere...

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It would appear that vital dates for these parents and one or both of his daughters are estimated incorrectly. Please see this record: {{FindAGrave|120698979}}. Mary Hardy's line of descendants with Nicholas Baggett II (ca. 1683-1755) are in a duplicate record here, but with dates concordant with the FindAGrave data and subsequent generations. Note that only two of Mary and Nicholas' children are listed on the FindAGrave site. For this family, sourcing is spotty and imprecise.

Here's another migration record for Nicholas Baggett that indexes to his spouse Mary Hardy on Ancestry: {{Ancestry Record|7486|4028035}}

In efforts to validate the correctness, I decided to look at Mary Hardy, but the relationships get dicey with James Baggett Sr (ca. 1720-1771) - FamilySearch ascribes Abraham Baggett as his father (without sources), but matching on Ancestry places him as a son of Nicholas Baggett II and Mary Hardy. He has a couple of links on his profile for some Ancestry.com matched records that are only able to be confirmed with subscriber access.

Given the time period in colonial America, perhaps that explains lack of sources? OTOH, Baggott links back all the way to the Bagots of Blithfield Hall, so it would seem that these are forgotten descendants?

WikiTree profile: John Hardy
in Genealogy Help by Porter Fann G2G6 Mach 9 (90.8k points)
retagged by Porter Fann

as a note, FAG unless they cite proper sources would not be reliable necessarily, since you're unlikely to actually find the graves.  You may have to do this the hard way and check each source indivually from all sites, since often it is something like the hints Ancestry has and nothing more.

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Here's the Wikipedia page that mentions the anchor generation: Sir Hervey Bagot, 1st Baronet .

by Porter Fann G2G6 Mach 9 (90.8k points)

Although the Wikipedia article mentions the supposed son John Baggett who emigrated to America, it would appear to be one of those situations where someone has linked an emigrant to a noble British family solely based on similar names and there is no proof for such a connection.

Sir Hervey Bagot did have a son John but he definitely died as a young child

See The Visitation of Staffordshire, p. 27

Perfect. Thanks for that link. The only other early work that I could find kind of muddled the distinction. I've disconnected Sir Hervey. Now I am hopeful that we might actually find where in the (probably related) lineage the actual father, William B is hiding. Perhaps a lesser noble ;)
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Part of this is resolved: I had suggested that this Mary is a duplicate of another Hardy-2080, but assuming the lineage is correct on Hardy-1361, it's another generation into which Hardy-2080 was born. Having said that, some "sourcing" on the internet says that the lineage for Hardy-1361 is the very Mary who married Nicholas Baggett, but chronology defies that conclusion.

by Porter Fann G2G6 Mach 9 (90.8k points)

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