Are there still any Estavan Charbonnneau believers?

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How many Charbonnneau searchers are there who have found Estavan during their research? This thread really gave me a “Eureka” moment some years ago and still would have until WikiTree. This thread had taken me on a real tangent which included even more incorrect assumptions. Many thanks again for all those great WikiTree wizards for reigning me in from that thread to nowhere.

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This is the profile ... Estavan Charbonneau (1582 - 1654)

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Yes, this is the profile Charbonneau-4 created 14 Apr 2010 by Daniel Charbonneau. This profile, however, lacks source information as stated in my previous reply. Many family tree Charbonneau searches by genealogy professionals have ended with Olivier. Perhaps, the French_Roots_Project Reliable Sources will find this information in the future.

Answer 1

Hello, Estavan Charbonneau is in my tree...back a few generations (!). May I ask...what thread?

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Yes, you may ask what thread. While using the MyHeritage site for many years for my genealogy, it provides a search records feature on individuals. From this it searches some hundreds - thousands of MyHertiage trees created by others.

Many appear to have the same information, but many vary significantly by names, dates, locations and accuracy. Almost all of the searches ended with Olivier Charbonneau having no identified parents with source information. I followed one thread that named Estavan, but have learned both he and his spouse Jeanne Dulonge in this profile lacked verified source information.

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I know, it's frustrating isn't it?

Another piece of information they had listed was the same old false info about Jeanne Dulonge d'Aftgagnan as Estavan's spouse and Oliver's mother. One tree also lists Petrus as Estavan's father and Antonine as Petrus father.  Again, no documentation to prove the claims.

So many of the trees at Ancestry use as their source a tree at a site like Wikitree based in Europe or the Canadian site..

There are 2,402 trees there mentioning Oliver, Estavan or combination thereof .  I'm guessing not one of them has a creditable source for Oliver's father or mother.

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That Jeanne Dulonge d'Artagnan is also given Bertrand de Batz Castelmore as father, which would make her a sister of the famous d'Artagnan. Except that it does not work - the real Jeanne de Batz Castelmore was married in 1652 (to Jean Antoine d'Orpheuille, not Estavan Charbonneau) and was in any case born far too late to be the mother of Olivier Charbonneau.

I would be curious to know the real origin of this mistake or fabrication!

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Coming across this information many years ago, led me to wander into the assumption of Dulonge, d’Artagnan, Castelmore and even Montesquieu as part of my ancestral tree. Of course, it was on the internet, so it must be true, right? So I then enthusiastically printed off the many pages of this information and unsuccessfully attempted to somehow validate this very interesting collection of unsourced history for years.

Finally, after reading an overwhelming number of family tree searches noting unknown or blank spaces for Olivier’s parents, I began to question this documentation.

For those people who are still believers, I would encourage them to take a step backwards and understand how these ancestors require profiles be accurately connected.