What do we do with a name printed in red in the Source section

Question

I might decide to tidy up a profile but what to do with the source with the previous manager's name in red.

While you are looking at this profile, what would I do with the other two sources which I think are absolutely useless, but a Wikitree person was saying within the last two days to never remove another person's source but to add better ones.

Comments

I'd move it below the other two items there .. and then ignore it.

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I agree with Melanie. I tend to move those old references to the original GEDCOM importer to the bottom of the list of sources, and leave it there otherwise untouched. I keep them when I'm merging profiles too, so it's clear that the origins of the profile are from GEDCOM imports.

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Sorry Melanie, you cannot ignore something in Red like that as it produces an error code.  It should be resolved.

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As I know nothing about gedcom imports, *I* would leave it and let someone with more knowledge on the matter deal with it. 

I might make a G2G post about it, maybe.  I adopted a profile the other day that has a red no longer existing profile link.  It was actually discussed on G2G.  I have checked suggestions for that profile and, currently, anyway, it is clear. 

If I am supposed to remove the reference to the baby's father, so be it.  But while it isn't actually throwing any error I can see, I shall leave it as it has been since the father's profile was removed (which would be any time between May 2018 and 2 days ago).

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You might want to take a look at Jeffery's Profile now, Melanie.  I found some Family Search records that can be viewed by anyone for him, bless his little soul.

While you may not see an error yet, one was certainly being produced, hence the red warning color.  Have you checked your Suggestions lately?  Given the time frame of when you adopted Jeffery and now, the the Error program might not have been run to check for new errors, or suggestions as they now call them, to be placed in your Suggestion box.  You are really not supposed to leave errors these as is, but attempt to fix them.  In this case as Gaile pointed out for the original  posted question, I removed him from view.

So, no Arnott's for you for one day young lady. ;)

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Yep .. checked the suggestions three times in the last 24 hours, but not in the last 2.  (I'm pretty sure I'm going to get some unique name ones pretty soon.)

LJ, if it's such a problem, why do some people create those non-links deliberately?  I know it can be a personal reminder to make a profile, but some of them just never seem to be fixed in a "timely" manner.

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Thanks for finding those see-able sources (except I still get the login screen .. not even going to bother trying with them).  I haven't a clue how to do anything US-based except look up the SSDI!

2 days.  That's longer than some of my profiles, but it has to be heartbreaking for the parents and grandparents (and any siblings).  I found a cousin (x times removed) had two sons in two years and neither survived even long enough to be named.  (This is something very personal to me because of someone close to my heart.)

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So, no Arnott's for you for one day young lady. ;)

commented 15 minutes ago by LJ Russell

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YOU WILL NEVER TAKE MY LEMON CRISPS!  NEVAH!

OR MY COUNTRY CHEESE!  I shall defend them to the utmost.  I have faced down an angry racoon, up close and personal.  Your biscuit stealing / prohibiting threats can't scare me! 

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Dang it, LJ, you were editing right as I was!  21 March HAH!

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Family Search is a free website that has almost all the same records as Ancestry even though they are not technically associated.  The reason for the password entry is to stop spy bots and web spiders from copying all of the information on their systems.  Like what Google does to get their information for searches.

Just your name and a password is basically it.  I don't think they ask for any personal info, but it has been awhile since I joined.  If you do any record checking on folks from the States, this is the place to go that's free with a good deal of records.  If you live in the U.S. and do online genealogical research, you belong to this site.

I used to raise raccoons.  Wonderful pets.Very loving and sweet.  Until they become sexually mature and they tend to get quarrelsome and mean, then you have let them go.  Sort of like human children now that I think about it.

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Just your name and a password is basically it.  I don't think they ask for any personal info, but it has been awhile since I joined.  If you do any record checking on folks from the States, this is the place to go that's free with a good deal of records.  If you live in the U.S. and do online genealogical research, you belong to this site.

commented 6 minutes ago by LJ Russell

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Yeah, I know, but I started a "ticket" with them over a month (closer to two by now, I think) because (I'm a broken recooooooooord!) they refused to accept that my upper and lower case alpha numerical password was NOT a surname.  I have tried to get it resolved, but gave up a couple of weeks ago.  I just don't see things linked there is all.  No biggie.  :)

 I used to raise raccoons.  Wonderful pets.Very loving and sweet.  Until they become sexually mature and they tend to get quarrelsome and mean, then you have let them go.  Sort of like human children now that I think about it.

commented 6 minutes ago by LJ Russell 

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I used to think they were kind of cute .. until the up close and personal.  But I won. 

Hah!  I shall tell my children you likened their offspring to angry racoons.  I'm sure they'll get a giggle. 

Answer 1

That is not a source.  It is merely an identification of the member who imported the gedcom that created the profile to begin with.  That was a standard statement added automatically by the old gedcom import process.  The member's name is a link that leads to his/her profile, however since it is red, that means that the member is beyond inactive - the person is no longer a member and his/her profile has been deleted.

For a few years now, the standard advice here has been to remove those statements.  There is no need to acknowledge the importer of a gedcom - only someone who made valuable contributions to the profile.  This profile's biography is completely empty and the only source is a link to an ancestry tree, which is not a valid source.  Therefore, no contributions of any value have been made.

Thank you, Jean, for being willing to take on this profile and improve it!

Answer 2

I would add ==Acknowledgments == below sources and move the manager in red  source into it. I often do it this way because it rarely is a real source, but needs to be recognised.

Comments

Yep, Marion's correct.  In an Acknowledgement is where it should be placed. 

See: Help: Biographies

Answer 3

The problem here is there is no Profile with the id of Gainge-1 anymore.  Appears it was deleted, reasons unknown by me.

 However there is another Alison Gainge, Gainge-35.  Has not been active since 2015 so unsure if you can contact her to see if Gainge-1 and Gainge-35 are one in the same.

Remove  [[Gainge-1 | Alison Gainge]] and replace with just Alison Gainge and that will get the red out.

If you're replacing the same source but in a different format that is not behind a paywall such as Ancestry you can put <!-- in front of the source and --> after, this will hide the source from active view, but not delete it entirely as it will still be viewable in the Edit Mode.  Then add your new source. Like duplicate Profiles, duplicate sources are not encouraged.

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Well, looking at this Profile a little deeper, everything in the Biography is messed up.

The ''Source: S-2084718899 Repository: #R-2142069891 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication...'' has a non working link and as it has no other information in it, it is just a hint and not a source and really of no use at all except as hint.  If you are adding actual Sources, this can be deleted, but if you are not adding Sources, it should remain as it is a hint.

The ''Repository: R-2142069891 Name: Ancestry.com.au Address: http://www.Ancestry.com.au Note'' is not needed as really doesn't point to anything useful and you can delete that under WikiTree Guidelines under GEDCOM Clean Up procedures. See GEDCOM Created Biographies

What to do with Alison Grainge is covered in another post.

Answer 4

When a user closes their account, their profile might be deleted for reasons of privacy.  But their Contributions log is still accessible, and can be very useful - eg if a profile came in a gedcom and you want to find the rest of the gedcom.

You need the user's ID to see their Contributions log, and you can't get it from the change log.  But you can get it from the red link in the Acknowledgements.

The red link is harmless, or should be, there have been lots of them around for years.  But if the colour offends you, just tweak it a bit, eg change the double brackets to single brackets.