Ancestor born in Barcelona, Spain, abt 1850. Need help there.

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Thanks for all who helped with tracking Puerto Rican records for my son-in-law's family. NO PROFILE YET.

I got back to a Francisco Carcolse, b. about 1850 (purely an estimate), married to Juana Santiago, born in Aibonito, PR, unknown date probably in Aibonito, PR, died before 1933 (Juana's death cert.). 

The records of three of his children indicate that he was born in Spain, one of them stating Barcelona as the locale. I can find no record of his immigration to Puerto Rico.

FS hasn't been of assistance in tracking Francisco in Spain. What direction should I go now? Thanks!

**Son Valintin’s marriage record indicates Francisco’s birth place as Barcelona:

"Puerto Rico, Registro Civil, 1805-2001," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVJL-PF2V : 16 July 2017), Francisco Carcolse in entry for Valentin Carcolse Santiago and Saturnina Figueroa Alicea, 04 Feb 1924; citing Aibonito, Puerto Rico, oficinas del ciudad, Puerto Rico (city offices, Puerto Rico).

**Daughter Tomaso’s death certificate indicates Francisco’s birth place as Spain:

"Puerto Rico, Registro Civil, 1805-2001," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVJL-PFM3 : 16 July 2017), Francisco Carcolce in entry for Tomasa Carcolce Santiago, 03 Jul 1935; citing Aibonito, Puerto Rico, oficinas del ciudad, Puerto Rico (city offices, Puerto Rico).

**Daughter Francisca’s marriage record indicates Francisco’s birth place as Spain:

"Puerto Rico, Registro Civil, 1805-2001," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVJL-PYCV : 16 July 2017), Francisco Carcolse in entry for Andrés Torres and Francisca Carcole, 18 May 1914; citing Aibonito, Puerto Rico, oficinas del ciudad, Puerto Rico (city offices, Puerto Rico).

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Hello, this may never reach you however it's worth a shot. I too am searching for the same person. He is my 4 times great grandfather. I also hit the same road block. I did find his death certificate that stated that his parents were unknown. Did you happen to find any new evidence? If so, can you please share it with me. I'd love to know what you lie in my family tree as well. Thanks

Answer 1

"España, matrimonios, 1565-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FFDD-6DZ : 10 February 2018), Francisco Carcolse Y Gispert and Juana Plá Y Montserrat, 29 Jan 1878; citing Santa María Del Pino, Barcelona, Barcelona, Spain, reference p 34; FHL microfilm 1,153,094.

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Close, but no cigar. But I DO appreciate you looking. My Juana was the daughter of a Santiago and an Ortiz.

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"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VWKS-K4W : accessed 6 February 2019), Juana Santiago Y Ortiz De Carcols, Algarrobo, Aibonito, Puerto Rico; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 733, sheet 1B, family 7, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 1757; FHL microfilm 1,375,770.

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I can use that! Excellent, Steven!! Much appreciated! 

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https://blog.myheritage.com/2011/07/spanish-naming-conventions-%E2%80%93-part-1-the-basics/

Naming conventions.

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Right! She was Juana Santiago-Ortiz. Her children were Carcolse-Santiago.

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And so, Francisco was dead (or ran off) before 1910.

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It said Widow so I'm guessing he was pushing daisies.

Answer 2

Barcelona is the capital of the Autonomous Community of Catalonia (Spanish Cataluña, Catalán Catalunha), which has its own customs, language, and local government. Your son-in-law´s ancestor almost certainly spoke both Spanish and Catalán.

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Right! And... when I went to look to see if here were records for Catalonia there were none per se, but there were records for Barcelona Ecclesiastical.

Answer 3

Have you tried here: 

https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index?owc=QZ7W-XPT%3A335015101%2C335015102%3Fcc%3D2015324

It is probably like looking for a needle in a haystack, but there are entries for births in Barcelona from 1849-1922. You may be lucky and find him

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Thanks, Anne. I'll be on the hunt, though I think you are right: it will be like looking for w needle in a haystack.

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That's how I found my brother-in-law's greatgrandfather's birth entry, looking at all the pages of the years I thought that he might have been born. Took some weeks, but in the end I found him. Good hunt!