info need on birth or death of John Flynn

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My great grandfather (John Flynn) has been a complete mystery to my family.  He left the family before my grandmother was even 1 year old.  My grandmother was told that he died.  Later, I tracked down some cousins that were grandchilren of my grandmother's older siblings.  They told me that they grew up knowing that John Flynn had left the family behind in Scotland and went to America.  From that information, I was able to track his trip over to Ellis Island.

All we know about his birth is that he was born in Ireland.  The Scottish marriage records list his age as 32 in Feb 1899.  The Ellis Island records list his age as 40 in Dec 1909. 

We are not sure where in Ireland that he was born.  There has been much speculation about it.  However, we have never been able to pin point it definitively.  We do know that he was illiterate so would not have been able to spell the name of the town to the people writing the list.  He also spoke gaelic in the home so he may have even provided the gaelic form of the name instead of the english form.

The town that John Flynn had listed at Ellis Island

As for death, my great grandmother filed for divorce in Scotland in 1918.  In the divorce records, she stated that she received letters from his sister Ann Flynn Devitt and his brother Owen Flynn in 1912 stating that he was deathly ill.  The records state that she attempted to write them back but had received no response.

We know that his last known location was Manhatten, New York, US. 

WikiTree profile: John Flynn
in Genealogy Help by Norma Wills G2G5 (5.5k points)
Hi Norma,

His birth year?

If the Scottish marriage records list his age at 32 in 1899, then his birth year should be 1867.  However the Ellis Island record give an age of 40 in Dec 1909 which places his date of birth at 1869.

Amanda
I pretty much figured that he was probably born in 1868 between March and Nov.  The reason I say that is because if he were born in Jan or Feb 1868, then he would have been 33 at the time of his marriage.  And if he were born in Dec of 1868, then he would have been 41 when he was at Ellis island.  Where we are at a complete loss is where in Ireland.  And a closer date then just sometime between March & Nov.
Hi Norma,

I have found a tree on Ancestry which places his death as about 1913 in New York, USA (but with no source document). His divorce from Mary Reynolds from Mary Reynolds 20 March1918

Amanda
Name: John Flynn
Birth Date: abt 1868
Birth Place: Co Cavan Ireland
Age: 29
Record Date: 4 Nov 1897
Court: Supreme Court of the State of New York (1-229)
Court Location: New York, New York, New York, USA

 

He was still in Scotland in 1897.  He didn't immigrate to the US until Dec 1909.  So that one isn't him.

Ok, what about this one then

 
Name: John Flynn
Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 45
Death Date: 11 Feb 1913
Death Place: Manhattan, New York, USA
Certificate Number: 4988
  Purchase Certificate

 

I already have that certificate  unfortunately, it isn't him either.  I had already called the cemetary that is listed on the record to find out the burial information.  That John Flynn was born in the US.  He is interred with Walter Flynn & Fannie S Flynn.  Neither of them are related to my John Flynn.

Thanks for all the great tips.  Unfortunately, those didn't help.  However, cousin bait really caught a nice big one for me!

Actually two in fact!  One of which was able to provide me with information on where John Flynn's sister was born.  She thinks that John was born there as well since we were able to track another sibling born there.

So we know that they are from Drumkeeran, Co. Leitrim, Ireland!!

cheeky

Awesome, well done.

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Hi Norma,

Have you tried the following sites for his records?

 
 
 
All the best
Billy
by Billy Wallace G2G6 Pilot (229k points)
selected by Norma Wills

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