Can we connect this Notable Transgender 19th Century Military Surgeon?

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Might be a long shot. I couldn’t find primary sources. But I was able to connect him to his Artist uncle another notable
WikiTree profile: James Barry
in Genealogy Help by Joelle Colville-Hanson G2G6 Mach 9 (98.5k points)
retagged by Ellen Smith

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I thought we might stand a chance of connecting to the tree through any possible descendants of her uncles.  I was particularly hopeful of Redmond Barry, since that is not as common a name. Nevertheless there are an astonishing number of people called Redmond Barry, in Ireland, England, Australia and the US. In addition, there are several marriages of a Redmond Barry in Stepney.  Did he have multiple marriages, or are these different men?  I was intrigued to notice that the Redmond Barry who married Elizabeth Hanwell in 1790 signed the marriage register with a rather neat hand.  https://www.ancestry.ca/interactive/1623/31281_a101803-00247/1126950?backurl=https://www.ancestry.ca/family-tree/person/tree/76453340/person/322080475214/facts/citation/942111095843/edit/record

The Redmond Barry that we are looking for apparently wrote a few letters to his famous older brother, James Barry the painter.  Those letters are said to be evidence of semi-literacy.  Apparently the letters are in the James Barry papers, according to a family tree on Ancestry;  transcription found here: https://www.ancestry.ca/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/76453340/person/322080475214/media/4d57e0c6-77a9-42ec-9c33-01373a289c23?_phsrc=TYo3402&usePUBJs=true;

I wonder if anyone is able to see both the signature on the marriage register and also find the original of the letter to the famous brother and give an opinion as to whether they could be written by the same hand.
by Shirlea Smith G2G6 Pilot (127k points)
edited by Shirlea Smith
looks like there might be a duplicate profile - i just proposed a merge
I’ve approved the merge on my end but I’m going to be pretty insistent he is gendered Male. That was clearly his choice.
no problem from my side!
Thanks for all your work on this. I can write a biography but had no idea how to get him connected.
I'm sure we can get him connected.  We haven't exhausted the possibilities yet.  I have hope for the older brother John who married Miss Ward - sounds like her family would have left some records somewhere.  And if necessary we can back up to the previous generations and then follow their descendants.
i just made the Redmond Barry handwriting question into its own question on G2G.  Maybe someone will help with that.
One of the versions of why the family went bankrupt is the expenses of John marrying a woman from a wealthy family of a high social station so you’d think there’d be some records somewhere.

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