Smith Smyth Schmidt One Name Study!

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I am happy to announce that the Smith (Schmid, Schmidt, Smithe, Smiths, Smyth, Smythe) one name study is now Open for Business!  I have included resources, links and connections to some reference materials.

Please include the category link [[Category:Smith Name Study]] on all of your Smith profiles and please add to the Smith Name Study with your own research resources. (Direct Link: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Smith_Name_Study.) We especially need Smith references from outside of New England.  Please join our endeavours to untangle the Smith lines.  

in The Tree House by Kitty Smith G2G6 Pilot (646k points)
edited by Ellen Smith
Hi Kitty, My Smyth ancestors were form Northern Ireland and migrated to Australia in about 1920. I'd like to participate in the name study please. Colleen

Hi Colleen, 

We would appreciate any additions you care to add to the Smith One Name Study:  http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Smith_Name_Study.  Please add [[Category:Smith Name Study]] to the your Smith ancestor profiles and Please get your Smith cousins DNA tested.  Thank you, Colleen!  

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fianna/surname/sur20.html
Irish
http://irishamericanebooks2.blogspot.com/

http://clansmithsociety.org/genealogies_of_clan_smith_societ.htm

And please don't forget there are Dutch, the Different names that mean smith in other languages.  :)  We did have some in the Caribbean-so it gets very confusing if they do not put Jamaica NY, and there are many good sites from Canada as well.  And believe it or not, even some from France, and Germany.  Extremely difficult to trace, especially around the American Revolution (or should I say the French/Indian wars), as well as Ohio and Indiana histories, Native American Indians taking on the name Smith.  ie Don't forget to look at some, altho they are later histories, of US documents regarding citizens of those nations.

There are quite a few Welsh Smiths (who might have come from ancient Scotland-Ecceard Smith-pict).  England, there are also many in Warwickshire-religion, Nottinghamshire-High Sheriff, Lincolnshire, Ashton Court, and a good many Lancastrians whether moving or the borders moving to Yorkshire.  Feuchtwanger in Proud Destiny mentions a couple of Smiths, as well as some of the Eleanor Hibbett/Jean Plaidy historical novels, but known for factual accuracies (the fiction is the emotion and filling in blanks). Some are tied very closely to Tudor and Stewart (Stuart sp?)  houses.  And all must faithfully promise not to be in tears of frustration by the time they find out who Erasmus Smith was LOL
It would be nice if this had more non New England based Smiths, but perhaps history dictates it so :)  Might be helpful to some, The DAR Patriot list on smithworldwide, http://www.smithsworldwide.org/tng/showreport.php?reportID=4

A wonderful all around site:  http://www.zipworld.com.au/~lnbdds/home/smythindex.htm

And a touch of the religious based, a famous William Smyth (non military?), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Smyth
Don't forget to check the One Name Studies index in the question.  There is already a Smyth Name Study...
May I suggest that the references go on a separate Spaces page called Sources, Smith Name Study?

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+6 votes
That's great Kitty! This is a name(s) that can really benefit from a ONS.
by Doug Lockwood G2G Astronaut (2.7m points)
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Hi Kitty - I have plenty of Smiths coming your way! All the ones I have so far are in the UK, so outside New England as requested smiley

by Alison Wilkins G2G6 Mach 3 (32.0k points)
Kitty , you are one very brave woman !
Kitty I will add the category to My smiths etc soon. It will most likely add  quite a few to it. Lol directly descended from like 4 different smith family's
+4 votes
Kitty,

I have approximately 40 each Smith to Smyth persons in my watch list. Also my grandfather was a Smith and I have been looking for Kin quite some time. I would like to join your group and learn how the study works.

Thanks

Ron Pearson
by Ron Pearson G2G2 (2.9k points)

Hi Ron, (Ron and Kitty are 14th cousins 2 times removed)

We would appreciate any additions you care to add to the Smith One Name Study: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Smith_Name_Study.  Please add [[Category:Smith Name Study]] to the your Smith ancestor profiles and Please get your Smith cousins DNA tested.  Thanks, cousin! 

+4 votes
As is probably the case with most persons who have large family trees, mine contains quite a few profiles for the surname Smith and its variants. At last count there were 192 Smiths, nine Schmidts and two Smythes. Most of them are in the US but outside the New England states. They are primarily single profiles (spouses of Barnum/Barnham family members) and not yet posted to WikiTree but if that would be of use to you I'll try to add them to my long-term projects.
by Patrick Barnum G2G6 Mach 5 (56.4k points)
Any new additions would be wonderful additions!  Thank you, Patrick!

I'll put it on my "to do" list!

Patrick and Kitty are 17th cousins once removed.

+4 votes
!So Smart a move !  Such a huge number of them waiting to be found.

My Schmidt or Schmid lines are all Germans living from the early 1800s back.

How will we find your study?  I want to be able to access it.
by Living Hilse G2G2 (2.3k points)
edited by Living Hilse
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Hi, Please add me to your Smith One Name Study:  http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Smith_Name_Study .  Elizabeth Smyth b.c.1760 Ireland, lived in Meath Ireland is my MDK mtDNA ancestor, my 5x great-grandmother, K1c2 haplogroup.  

by
I added you to the bottom of the Smith Researchers list:

https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Space:Smith_Researchers
why don't you add to her profile the category Ireland, Smith Name Study ?
+4 votes
nova scotia archives has at least 277 documents of the "smith" form of name.  heres link

https://novascotia.ca/archives/search/?q=smith
by Arora Anonymous G2G6 Pilot (164k points)
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I will add two Schmidt ancestors: one a brick wall in the United States , Amanda Moriah Smith/Schmidt Eastman (Smith-108584) (1813-1899) and one a brick wall in Norway who is probably from Germany, also a brick wall (Schmidt-10075) (1621-1723). I also added them to New York, Smith Name Study and Norway, Smith Name Study, respectively.
by Judy Bramlage G2G6 Pilot (213k points)
edited by Judy Bramlage
+3 votes
May I suggest a further degree of segregation for Smiths/Smyths/Schmidts: and that is by location. See Eastman Name Study and Utterback Name Study for two examples. What one would enter in the profile is [[Category: Ireland, Smith Name Study]] for someone from Ireland and change Ireland for any other Country/State in US as appropriate. If the user found that the category turned red (meaning there wasn't yet a category of that name), they would be obligated to go to that new category and enter a description "This page covers the Smiths/Schmidts/Schmyths/etc from {{insert appropriate location here, for example Ireland if you are the first one to enter and Ireland}}. Please make sure you haven't misspelled the location name or it will have to be removed later.

What do you think of this?
by Judy Bramlage G2G6 Pilot (213k points)

Hello Judy

The structure of the subcategories you have described (such as Ireland, Smith Name Study) is already in place in most ONSs.  I use it in all of mine.

It is probably preferable for the person who wants a new category created to ask you as the Study manager to create it for them.  Or, if they feel confident enough, then when the category name turns red, they would click on that red text and, in the box which appears, add a parent category as well as the wording you have provided.

For example:
Category:Smith Name Study AND
"This page covers the "This page covers the Smiths/Schmidts/Schmyths/etc from {{insert appropriate location here, for example Ireland if you are the first one to enter Ireland}} 

It is very important for technical reasons NOT to include the forward slash in category names i.e. it should be Category:Smith Name Study, not Category:Smiths/Schmidts/Schmyths Name Study.

Also: do not make the surname plural i.e. not Category:Smiths Name Study, but Category:Smith Name Study.  Do you see why I suggest it would be easier to have just one person (i.e. you) to do the category creation? otherwise people might get it all wrong and you will spend the better part of your days checking their category work and correcting errors.
 

I would forget to add the link back to the main category page. Sorry about that. I agree that most of the categories should be added by the PM. But what would you give as instructions if it turns RED? Just check the spelling or mail the PM? that would work too.
Judy, If you would like to do this, I think that would be great.  I am not a big category fan or user, and I am sure that others are much more qualified than I am for that task.  Thanks for a good Idea.
OK. I just took on the task of doing it for the Eastman Name Study. I guess I can do it for Smith Name Study this evening or at least start it. What countries should I add other than Norway, Germany, England, and Netherlands? Also, would you want people to add a profile to Brick Wall as well as the state/country the profiles are from?

If I don't get any votes for this suggestion is it worth doing?
I would add a sub for Australia, Ireland and Scotland too.  There are a lot of Australian Smiths.  OOOpps. Canada too.  Lots of Canadian Smiths.

I don't think there is a problem with both Brick Walls and locations, though I probably won't use the location IDs much myself.  I am all about adding sources.  Categories, . . . not so much.

OK, it is done almost. I put DC under District of Columbia and I came up with an error on Netherlands. I put in all the countries you suggested, but don't know how to handle the Netherlands error. See the category Netherlands, Smith Name Study and it will show up on that page. If, as seems obvious, I've chosen the wrong country name, then this page will that to be removed and the content moved to the appropriately named page.

Ros Haywood could you help on this?

Looks like you fixed it, because when I go to Netherlands, Smith Name Study then DC doesn't appear.  Sorry I couldn't help earlier - I was asleep in my timezone...

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