Are there specific criteria beyond surname for adding profiles to one name studies or Scottish Clans?

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I have numerous ancestor profiles that I have added or edited that have Graham as a surname, which, if I understand correctly makes them members of Clan Graham, and also candidates for the Grham Name study categories and subcategories. Should I just add them to the categories I deem appropriate or are there specific requirements that I may not be aware of?
in Policy and Style by Rob Graham G2G6 (7.1k points)
For One Name Studies, as Ros said, the name is what counts. (Although different One Name Studies projects may have different criteria: I run one for my surname, and I ask people to add the template only to the oldest ancestor in each Slade branch, because I'm trying to discover whether the different Slade families actually connect up with each other or not.)

For clans, it actually varies by clan. As I understand it, the current head of Clan Carmichael has said that everyone with the last name of Carmichael is automatically part of Clan Carmichael, but I gather that that's not all that common among clans, and so you may need to prove that you are descended from known members of Clan Graham before you can call yourself part of the clan.
Thanks, Greg. If I could I would mark your comment as the best answer.

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I am part of the Scottish Clans project.  There is a Clan page for Clan Graham  It is managed by Terry Wright.  There are also instructions on the page for adding ancestors.

Hope that helps!

Amy

by Amy Gilpin G2G6 Mach 8 (89k points)
selected by Rob Graham
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There is a Scottish Clans Project:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:Scottish_Clans

who may have their own categories.
by One Name Studies WikiTree G2G Crew (330 points)
Thanks, I was aware of the Scottish Clans project. You didn't comment on criteria for the one name studies - are there none other than surname?
It's One NAME Studies.  So the surname is what counts.  But when you move into Scottish Clans, that does not come under the One Name Studies Project - it comes under the Scottish Clans Project.

So there is a Graham Name Study, and a Haywood Name Study, but not a Clan Graham Name Study.
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Those of us who start one name studies are usually interested in the ends of the line. We want to work on connections. Adding everyone of the same name makes it harder for us. Look at the page that describes the one name study to see if they have specific goals.
by Sue Hall G2G6 Pilot (134k points)
Thank you for the excellent clarification. Sadly the Graham one name study claims to have the objective of gathering everything Graham in one place. All 20000 of us (?!). connecting ends would be so much more worthwhile...
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For my Crane and Talbot Name Studies I’ve been subcategorising them by place, eg [c:Bindi Bindi, Western Australia, Crane Name Study]. That way I can quickly identify which group of Cranes I’m looking at.

They link up to the [c:Lancashire, Crane Name Study] which I’m trying to link to the [c:Isle of Man, Crane Name Study].  I know they are linked because I have a photo of my 2xGGF who was a publican in Liverpool visiting the Isle of Man with his 9 yo daughter.  Why did he go there? Business or visiting relatives? He wouldn’t have taken a 9yo daughter on a business trip in 1881.  There are Crane shoemakers on both IOM and Lancashire, is that the link?

So sleuthing genealogy based on occupation and location can be helpful.  Breaking ONSs into subcategories can help that rather than have thousands of people with just a common surname. Also the Crane Surname morphed into Craine on the IOM adding another complication. An earlier curate baptised them under the name Crane, later records under a different curate married or buried them under Craine.
by Deborah Talbot G2G6 Mach 4 (49.3k points)
Thank you, Deborah! My initial reaction to the Graham name study was that the location-based categorization, mingled with some random other categories was confusing and counter-intuitive. I have since looked at some of the resources in the One Name Study profile pages (especially the great video by the one name guild) and have a clearer understanding, and agree with you about the benefits of using location to group profiles so they are more manageable. What seems missing is some more clarity of purpose, some reasonable limited goals and (as you point out) a list of the Surname variants that would qualify.

I'll open a dialog with the Graham Name Study project lead and see if I can contribute.

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