Im ...so confused. My fathers name is Malcolm Uren, i just don't know which one. Trying to locate his children

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WikiTree profile: PJ Stone
in Genealogy Help by PJ Stone G2G Rookie (190 points)
Malcom E Urann is in the 1930  and 1940 US Census. He was born in Maine in 1921 and was living in Sullivan Town, Hancock, Maine in 1940 at age 19. He had sister, Winnifredian who was two years older.

There are others with the same name as Malcolm, one died in Australia in 1986 Others were born in several different counties in England.

So, what country do you think he was born in and or married in?

Here is a Malcolm born in 1924

Malcolm Charles Uren

 in the Australia, World War II Military Service Records, 1939-1945

Name: Malcolm Charles Uren
Birth Date: 23 Jun 1924
Birth Place: Perth Western Australia
Year Range: 1939 - 1948
Enlistment Place: Perth
Service Number: 427668
Father: Malcolm Uren
Series Description: A9300: RAAF, Officers

Malcolm C Uren

 in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950

Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950 No Image
Text-only collection
Name: Malcolm C Uren
Marriage Place: Western Australia
Registration Place: Perth, Western Australia
Registration Year: 1947
Registration Number: 340
Here is the link to a Wikipedia page about a Malcolm Uren who had a son named the same and could possibly be the father of your father.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Uren
Would you have any thought on whether Maine would be is origin or Australia if you had to choose one or the other? If he was born in Maine in 1921 he would have to be 98 years old by now or maybe deceased.

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Welcome, PJ!

To help, we need more info.  Where was your father born?  Where did he live?  Is he still alive?  Privacy rules forbid us sharing information about living people.  Since his children are probably still alive, the privacy issues are a major obstacle to helping you find siblings.
by Herbert Tardy G2G6 Pilot (640k points)
Wow! Thank you so much for responding to me! I will tell you all that I know. My father Malcolm, owned an import export business in Sydney Australia in 1964. My mother came to work for him and I am the product of their Union. I know he was married. I know that he has 4 children. I know that he wrote a book. I know that he drowned off his yacht within the last 20 years. I have found 3 people in my DNA matches who are 3rd and 4th cousins and 1 1st cousin whom I think is elderly and is not regularly on this site and has not responded to me. That is all I know and I don't know where to go from here.

You're welcome, and sorry I can't offer much.  The man Betty found is Uren-114.  He's about the right age, died in the last twenty years, and had four children, but otherwise he doesn't match your facts very well.  His father was a relatively well-known journalist and author, which leads to many false trails. 

Tracing your Malcom will be very difficult because of privacy rules and the fact that he died relatively recently.  For example, Australian death records have to be more than 30 years old to become public.  Maybe there was an obituary or a news story about his death.  Good luck!

Herbert, I am thinking your Uren-114 is the one that matches the Wikipedia page I put a link for  The one son mentioned is same on that and the profile..  I see that there are some people listed on the profile page  that Herbert could check their dna against.  I would suggest that Frank upload his dna data to gedmatch and then after that is done, do a one-to-one for each of their kit #'s against his to see if there is a match.

Wikipedia Malcolm is Uren-113, the father of Malcolm Charles Uren

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https://nominal-rolls.dva.gov.au/veteran?id=1066324&c=WW2

Name

UREN, MALCOLM CHARLES

Service

Royal Australian Air Force

Service Number

427668

Date of Birth

23 Jun 1924

Place of Birth

PERTH, WA

Date of Enlistment

16 Aug 1942

Place of Enlistment

PERTH

Next of Kin

UREN, MALCOLM

Date of Discharge

05 Mar 1946

Rank

Flying Officer (same as 1st lieutenant in army)

Posting at Discharge

194 SQUADRON

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=5242357

34 Pages of Information

Page 5 slightly injured Air Operations near Sylhet, Assam, India 21 – 23 June 1944

Page 8 next of kin father Malcolm John Uren of 26 Stanley Street, Nedlands, Western Australia

Pages 11 – 12 – 13 -14 photographs

Page 17 item 5 Q. What is your trade or calling? A. Journalist

Page 31 Mustering Navigator

Page 32 Details of Flying Accident – not due to enemy action – aircraft Dakota KC-493 aka C47 & Douglas DC3 this aircraft had various uses including carrying Para-troopers

Page 34 Report of the Flying Accident.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/37941340?  (These links don’t always work)

News Paper Western Mail (Perth, WA: 1885 -1954) Thursday 5 December 1940 Page 7. There is an article by a Malcolm Uren , who I believe would be the person we are referring to due to the location & his occupation

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=Malcolm+Uren+journalist&l-availability=y&l-australian=y  this link will connect you to numerous articles written by Malcolm Uren

https://www.streetsofeastfreo.com/eastfreohouses/26hubblestreet

Malcolm John Uren (your grandfather) was born in 1900 in Adelaide. The Uren family moved to Perth and Uren married Lenora Emily Olive Stradwick (Klenk) (your grandmother) on 25 August 1923. They had a son, Malcolm Charles Uren in 1924. He was a journalist with the Western Mail. He (Malcolm John) died in 1973. He lived in this house for a year- 1924 

SPOOKY: Back on the December 29, 1925 another person, who also lived at this address, with the Christian name of Charles, drowned at Yunderup, via Pinjarra,  aged 19 years

Unable to find any connections in familysearch.org. – Ryerson Index – Trove Newspapers about his death

Cheers Ross Geissmann

by Ross Geissmann G2G6 Mach 2 (21.5k points)
edited by Ross Geissmann

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