Sarah (maiden name Ryder) Carman born abt 1750’s-1844 need genealogy help need sources

Question

Sarah (Maiden name “Ryder”) Carman marrried Alexander Carman (born 1749-1823) son is Jacob Carman (born 1785-1845) we need a source for her as she is currently unsourced. Any help with this surname “Ryder” would be appreciated. We believe born in New York and part of the Dutch Reformed Church. Parents unknown. We believe died April 27, 1844 in New York. Thank you

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Are you sure about Duchess county? An Alexander Carman found next door in Ulster county (New Paltz and Rochester) in census data of 1790-1820. That same Alexander also seen in tax rolls from 1799-1803.

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Unsure of county. The kids grandkids are in ulster see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Carman-1493

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Carman-1492

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You might want to tag this question for the New Netherlands project; early Carmans were covered by that project it appears

Answer 1

In The Settlers of the Beekman Patent, Alexander Carman is shown marrying first about 1749, Catherine Simpson and secondly Sarah Ryder. It also says he was taxed in Charlotte Precinct between 1777-1779. I'll see if I can find more. Here is a link if you have access to American Ancestors: https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/dutchess-county-ny-the-settlers-of-the-beekman-patent/image?volumeId=12173&pageName=235&rId=137564013 The reference is in Volume 3, page 235

One other comment made in this source may be important: Alexander is listed in the "Other and Unplaced Carmans" section; his parents are not identified, nor is his birth/death information

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Thank you. I want to get something that can be used as a source to get her unsourced also. This is excellent !

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Rider is more prevalent in the source than Ryder.

There were a few other Sarah Ryders in the source, but they married different people. A couple Sarah Riders were also not her. This was the only reference for her in relation to a Alexander Carman. Perhaps she was born to a family outside Duchess County.

Answer 2

Ryder is one of the prevalent New Netherland families.

Here is possibly the main progenitor of the same Ryder line, in Brooklyn. I noticed in the descendant tree that there is at least one Carman by marriage in this tree.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ryder-134