My Brickwall is my 2x great grandfather Henry George Butcher b abt 1825

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My great grandfather Henry George Butcher (1852 -1928) married Mary Martha Bowman in Bungadore, New South Wales, Australia. On their marriage certificate, it states that his parents names are Henry George Butcher and Kesiah (surname unknown). My great grandfather was born in Kent, UK but I have hit a brickwall with this generation.. I would love to connect with anyone who shares these ancestors. Cheers Trish
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in The Tree House by Trish Sanson G2G2 (2.1k points)

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The only birth records I could find for Henry George Butcher have born December 1855 in Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England. Parents not named.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/information.pl?cite=PGcO2hzeKRQ9nmlf6uyFLg&scan=1

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"England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2N4Z-Y4X : 1 October 2014), Henry George Butcher, 1855; from "England & Wales Births, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Birth Registration, Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England, citing General Register Office, Southport, England.

by Marion Poole G2G6 Pilot (642k points)

From Findmypast (mother’s LNAB East)

First name(s) HENRY GEORGE

Last name BUTCHER

Birth year 1855

Birth quarter 4

Registration month -

Mother's maiden name East

District Hitchin

County Hertfordshire

Country England

Volume 3A

Page 216

Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Category Life Events (BDMs)

Subcategory Civil Births

Collections from Great Britain, England

Cannot find Kesiah, but there is a Martha East who married Henry Butcher.

First name(s) Martha

Last name East

Name note -

Marriage year 1851

Marriage date 19 Jan 1851

Marriage place Saint Pancras

Spouse's first name(s) Henry

Spouse's last name Butcher

County London

Country England

Record set England Marriages 1538-1973

Category Life Events (BDMs)

Subcategory Parish Marriages

Collections from England, Great Britain

+2 votes

Could he have been George Henry rather than Henry George ? Here's the only birth record I could find for Kent between 1850 and 1854:

BUTCHER, GEORGE  HENRY   ; Mother's maiden surname: LEACH  ;

GRO Reference: 1853  Dec Quarter in BROMLEY  Volume 02A  Page 195

I couldn't find a Leach/Butcher marriage, but there is a Keziah Leach in the Dartford workhouse in 1851. Born Abt.1834.

by Joe Farler G2G6 Mach 7 (76.2k points)

I found the same person searching on Keziah but I don't think it's correct. There is a Butcher/Leach marriage in Bromley1852 but its Alphonse Butcher and Mace Leach.

Marriages Sep 1852
BUTCHER     Alphonse     Bromley     2a    302
LEACH     Mace           Bromley     2a    302   

That's probably the parents of the Bromley "George Henry" then. Keziah might not have married a Butcher, though. Hence the brick wall. You'd probably need to see the birth certificate in order to decide.
Alphonse and Mace do have a son, George,  of the right age in the 1861 census, so that rules out that 1853 Bromley birth, as you suggested.
Hi Joe

Thank you for looking into this and for your comments.. i believe his name is definitely Henry George.. i have his marriage and death certificates which both state his name  and i am pretty sure i have the right person as the certificates have all the right connections to his wife and children etc.... BUT..this is where i have differing information also.. on his marriage cert it states he was 47yrs old in 1899 which makes his birth year 1852 born in Kent, UK, however on his death cert it states that he was 81yrs in 1928 which makes his birth yr about 1847! I have found a birth record for a Henry Butcher born in 1847 in Woolwich which was apparently historically in the area of Kent.. so this sort of matches..parents are listed as Henry and Ellen.. (not Keziah as listed on the marriage cert)! every time i look in this family.. i just keep getting more and more road blocks! arrghh! cheers Trish
+1 vote

Could there be a mistake in Henry's birth year? According to the profile he didn't marry until he was 47, then to a 27 year old, but they didn't have a child until 10 years later!? That's a highly unusual scenario.

I did find a Henry George Butcher baptised in 1833 in Kent who could be Henry's father.

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNR9-89X : 11 February 2018, Henry George Butcher, ); citing I-3 1833, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,785,908

by Matthew Fletcher G2G6 Mach 8 (83.4k points)
Hi Matthew

Thank you for looking into this.. I have thought the same thing about the ages and i cant explain it either.. i am currently searching the gaol records.. maybe he was in jail for a few years.. though.. i am not having much luck there either!! I have found a census record for a Henry George Butcher b 1847 in Kent.. which seems to match the information indicated on his death cert (states he was 81 yr when he died in 1928).. this is such a mystery.. but thank you for your help!

Cheers

Trish

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