Brick Wall, grt grandfather William Jasper Hildebrand/Hilderbrand/Hilldebrand/Hill

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in Genealogy Help by Shirley Hill G2G Crew (320 points)

Is this the fella?

William J Helterbrand

 in the 1900 United States Federal Census

Name: William J Helterbrand
[William Jasper Hildebrand] 
[William J Hildebrand] 
Age: 6
Birth Date: Sep 1893
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1900: Boone, Texas, Missouri
Sheet Number: 7
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 114
Family Number: 114
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital status: Single
Father's name: Joseph H Helterbrand
Father's Birthplace: Missouri
Mother's name: Ida Helterbrand
Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
Attended School: 0
Can Read: No
Can Write: No
Can Speak English: Yes
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph H Helterbrand 28
Ida Helterbrand 24
William J Helterbrand 6
Henry B Helterbrand 4
Ollie J Helterbrand 2
Gertrude A Helterbrand 8/12
Betty Fox,  no not him.  This is a hard one. William Jasper Hill, father to my grandfather James Franklin Hill (father to my dad Doyle Albert Hill).

Story goes William killed 2 men on the Cherokee Strip at a Dance Strip.  Later moved to Arkansas, change last name to Hill so he would not be caught.  My grandfather James was 16 yrs old when William was killed.  William was 32 yrs old when he died.  He was stomped to death by men on horses to take his still.  William, they say was 1/2 Cherokee.  The family wouldn't talk about it, they were called black dutch.  Guessing William died about 1895.  He married Mary Jane Melton (my great grandmother, nothing on her before 1897. She remarried in 1897 to Thomas Triplett had a son Delphie Triplett 1900-1963.
Have you found newspaper articles or anything concerning this incident? I can find no paperwork indicating that such a person as William Jasper Hilderbrand born in Oklahoma even existed.
Using Ancestry.com, I can find no Hilderbrands in the 1870 census of all of Oklahoma.
No, can't find anything.  Do not know where he was born.  Can't find him on any census.

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1910 still in Boone, TX
Head
Male
40
Missouri
Wife
Female
33
Missouri
William J Hildebrand
Son
Male
16
Missouri
Son
Male
14
Missouri
Daughter
Female
12
Missouri
Daughter
Female
10
Missouri
Daughter
Female
7
Missouri
Son
Male
2
Missouri
Son
Male
0
"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLM4-P2K : accessed 3 April 2019), William J Hildebrand in household of Joseph H Hildebrand, Boone, Texas, Missouri, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 95, sheet 5A, family 81, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 826; FHL microfilm 1,374,839.
by Kathy Rabenstein G2G6 Pilot (234k points)
Kathy Rabenstein,  no not him.  This is a hard one.  Story goes he killed 2 men on the Cherokee at a dance stomp.  Later to went to Arkansas, changed last name to Hill so he wouldn't get caught.  William father to my grandfather James franklin Hill (father to my dad). James was 16 yrs old when William died at age 32.  Guessing William died 1895.  He married Mary Jane Melton.  Know nothing on her prior to 1897.  She remarried 1897 to Thomas Triplett had a son Delphie Triplett 1900-1963.  Family would not talk about it, they were called black dutch.  They say William and Mary were 1/2 cherokee.
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"United States World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K3TQ-C4H : 13 March 2018), William Jasper Hildebrand, 1917-1918; citing Texas County, Missouri, United States, NARA microfilm publication M1509 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,683,934.

Name: William Jasper Hildebrand
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1917-1918
Event Place: Texas County, Missouri, United States
Gender: Male
Nationality: United States
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1894
Birthplace: Miller, Missouri, United States

There are many more records for him  on FamilySearch.org

by Kathy Rabenstein G2G6 Pilot (234k points)

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