Philip d'Aubigny d.1236

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I have started looking at the profile of Philip d'Aubigny, who was associated with King John of England and died in the Holy Land in 1236. There seems to be disagreement about his parentage. The profile, and Wikipedia, state that his parents were Ralph d'Aubigny and Sybil Valoignes, the source for this on Wikipedia being Wikitree, so Wikipedia does not help. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography states that his father was probably "Elias d'Aubigny or d'Aubigné, married to a woman named Hawise." Is anyone working on the family?

WikiTree profile: Philip d'Aubigny
in The Tree House by Michael Cayley G2G6 Mach 4 (45.3k points)
edited by Michael Cayley

William Farrer’s “Early Yorkshire Charters” (vol. 1, p. 461) has a pedigree which includes Ralph d’Aubigny and Sybil Valoignes. It does not show Philip as a child, and gives (p.462) Ralph’s daughters as coheirs. Internet Archive At the least, it seems to me, we should mark the relationship between Philip and Ralph & Sybil as uncertain. Should we delete it?

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There is this discussion from the soc.genealogy.medieval by John P. Ravilious where he definitely states that Philip is the son of Elias d'Aubigny and his wife Hawise.  Haven't checked all the sources but no one in the discussion seems to be disagreeing with John P. Ravilious.

However later in the discussion it is pointed out that Elias did have two other sons, not mentioned by Ravilious.

by John Atkinson G2G6 Pilot (365k points)
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Two of Philip's brothers, Oliver and John. are also incorrectly linked to Ralph d'Aubigny and Sybil Valoignes.
Also the profile for Ralph.
That discussion on soc.medieval.genealogy is a mine of info with some good sources. Many thanks, John. I had intended just to work on Philip and his parents, as I am beginning to look at the group whom the Magna Carta Project calls “Illustrious Men” - King John’s Counsellors at the time of the Magna Carta. But I think it makes sense for me to work on his family more generally while I am about it.
I think Andrew Lancaster did a lot of work on Illustrious Men - though not that one.
There are other profiles in the Illustrious Men category which could do with some attention. I hope to work on them over time, but of course other Wikitree-ers are more than welcome to improve them. I may well be asking more questions on some of the Illustrious Men in G2G over coming months, especially if - as here - I see a need to revise family relationships shown on Wikitree.

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