Looking for info on EMMIE WILLIAMS born 1862 Weston Ontario Father is JOHN 40148

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Familysearch.org has Emma J. Williamson in the 1880 United States Census, Titabawassee, Saginaw, Michiigan, born Canada, est. 1862. age 18 yrs. She is the daughter of John 38, and Alzina 31, Williamson.

Emma's three younger siblings were born in Michigan.

Elizabeth A. 6, John A. 4 and another son, Jessee A. 1 yr old.

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch
by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (1.9m points)
Sorry Frank. This is not the EMMIE WILLIAMS I am looking for. The mother was ANNA MARIE BENNETT - 13001. All siblings were born in WESTON Ontario or WALES/ ENGLAND>
THANKS

Keith
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Emmie Williams in the 1871 Canada Census, York, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, district 44. Age is 9, Nationality shown as Irish, Religion C of England, estimated birth date 1862.

Parents are John and Ann Williams. John is 37, Ann is 34 born Ireland. Siblings of Emmie are George 18, Mary Ann 16, Francis 15, Eliza 13, Adelaid 11, Richard 7, Thomas 4, Margret 6, and Caroline 1.

"Canada Census, 1871," database, FamilySearch
by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (1.9m points)
Thanks Frank. I am trying to get more info past the 1861 and 1871 Canada census.

Keith
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I have added the 1871 Canada Census to her profile and her father's profile.

For the 1871 Canada Census, if you just increase the last digit in the Canada Census web address by one, you can flip through the family.  

Or just copy and past the link on the father's profile and just increase by one once you know the order on the census.
by S Stevenson G2G6 Mach 4 (41.4k points)
Sorry, cannot find which family adopted her after her mother's death.  I think I found her sister Carrie but not her.  Good luck on your search.
Many Thanks. I am brickwalled on tracing most of her siblings.Have been at this for over 3 years.

Keith
Did her parents have any other siblings in Canada or U.S.?  Did any of the children get sent to their aunts or uncles?  I note that about three of siblings end up in the U.S., just wondering if they were sent to live with family.  

The loss of the 1890 U.S. Census does not help your situation.

If another Canadian family adopted her, they could have changed her name due to what happened with her parents.  I could not find anything with her birth day, so hard to find with a changed name.

DNA is a long shot, as you do not know if she lived to be an adult or had children.

Quite the puzzle.
Hi

Thanks for spending the time on my search. I know that Carrie and Maggie ended up in the USA.Who are the other 2 ?

Thanks

Keith

John Robert WILLIAMS m MARIA LAVER IN TORONTO 1880 Also some went to relatives in Quebec circa 1877.

look at Thomas's profile https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Williams-74644 he is living with Maggie and her husband in the 1900 US Census (as brother-in-law) and then his death certificate in 1904 has the same address as the 1900 Census.

Great find Thanks so much.
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Do you know anything about the children born between the 1871 census and the death of the parents in 1877?

The Globe & Mail article says they had 14 children, the 1861 and 1871 census records only list 12. you may be missing 2 or 3 children (not sure if Ellen would be included in the 14).

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Williams-40148

by S Stevenson G2G6 Mach 4 (41.4k points)
Does anyone have Toronto Library access? They have the Globe and Mail archives online. I wonder if there would be a story about the incident, perhaps naming the children or where they ended up.
G&m article from 2017 is attached to profile.
sorry, misunderstood, reading articles now. so cool.
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I've added the Censuses and a list of children to Ann's profile with bare notes on when we last see them. 

There does not appear to be any record of the births of any of the children.

Trying to trace out where they go, to see if some of them end up with each other (like Thomas & Maggie).

Work in progress!

by Christine Daniels G2G6 Mach 5 (50.2k points)
Thanks Christine. It sure is a puzzle. Every tidbit is putting me closer.

With EXTRA SPECIAL THANKS to S. Stevenson, there are now several articles posted to John's profile from the trial and including witness statements from four of the children.

It's amazing to be able to find these kinds of sources, but what a horrific tragedy befell that poor woman and her children. 

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