Do the parents listed under the following profile have a primary source?

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The information on his  FAG profile provides no sources. John Benson (1608-1679) is my paternal 9x Great-Grandfather, and in all the years I have been doing research, I have not found any source that states these were his parents. The scary part is this information is found everywhere on Ancestry, Family Search, and here. If it is not correct, then his profile under PGM needs to be corrected or the source listed.
WikiTree profile: John Benson
in Genealogy Help by Carrie Benson G2G2 (2.8k points)
Thank you both for your responses to this matter. I have read both of the sources listed several times and also have an original copy of an older publication "Descendents of Issac Benson & Mary Bumpus".

Over the last five years, I have been looking into the origin of my 9xGGfather in England, and it has been a frustrating journey, to say the least. That is why I wanted to reach out about the information of these parents, listed on his PGM profile. I feel that they should be removed. I received an email from the manager of the profile stating he is removing himself as the manager. If it is allowed how may I go about taking over the profile? I am already working with the Magna Carta Project and I am pre-1700 certified. I would like a chance to work on John's Profile.

As to the information from the sources. Yes, there is a Thomas Benson listed in the area near where John may have lived, but this Thomas died in 1612, our John was only 6 years old at the time of his death, which is why the authors suggest Thomas was maybe his grandfather.

The will of this Thomas Benson has been found, and on the outside of the will, the name John Benson is written. Several researchers suggest that this John Benson is a son of Thomas, who at the time has already inherited property or money from his father, therefore was not named in the will. However, I am leaning towards this John Benson as maybe a brother or nephew of Thomas, and my John Benson (1608) is the son or grandson of this person. As there are several John Benson's living during this time in these regions of Oxfordshire.

My 9xGGrather brought his wife and two young children over to New England in 1638, from research that has been done, there is no reason to suggest that he was a servant to anyone else on the ship. This is backed up by the fact that he became a freeman in 1638 in Hingham, MA and later Hull, MA. This leads me to think that he must have had some level of economic security. Also, family research suggests that his immigration to the colonies was not due to religious freedom, but that of economic reasons (the real reason he came to the colonies is still uncertain).

I hope one day that John's parents can be identified, but at this point in time, it seems his ancestry is lost in time. Maybe a DNA connection found will provide further evidence, but I am feeling pretty hopeless at this point.
Carrie, following  your and Chase's work on this, I've detached the parents and added a Disputed Origins section. I encourage both of you to edit that section and make the necessary changes to the profile.

If you'd like to be on the Trusted List go follow changes, to the profile in the future, please submit a Trusted List request.

Because this is a project protected profile, any management of it is done in partnership with (in this case) the Puritan Great Migration project.

Thanks both of you for researching this and Carrie for bringing the problem to our collective attention. Thanks, too, Marion for trying to find records on the England side that might be him.

-- Jillaine, co-Leader, PGM

2 Answers

+2 votes

Is this him?

First name(s) John

Last name Benson

Sex Male

Birth year 1608

Marriage year 1633

Death year 1678

Principal's first name(s) John

Principal's last name Benson

Relationship Principal

Spouse's first name(s) Mary

Spouse's last name Williams

Event type Baptism

Event year 1608

Event type 2 Death

Event year 2 1678

Event type 3 Marriage Suppliment

Event year 3 1633

Event place 3 Caversham, Eng/Hull

State -

Country United States

Title Third Supplement To Torrey's New England Marriages Prior To 1700

Author Sanborn

Collection United States, Early American Vital Records

Record set United States, Early American Vital Records Indexes

Category Life Events (BDMs)

Subcategory Civil Births

Collections from Americas, United States

by Living Poole G2G Astronaut (1.3m points)

Findmypast 

John

Last name Benson

Gender Male

Birth year -

Birth place -

Baptism year 1608

Baptism date 14 Aug 1608

Place -

County London

Country England

Father's first name(s) John

Father's last name Benson

Mother's first name(s) -

Mother's last name -

Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

Category Life Events (BDMs)

Subcategory Parish Baptisms

Collections from England, Great Britain

The London baptism is probably not for him. John Benson the immigrant came from Caversham, Oxfordshire. It is a very common name, so just finding a matching name and date doesn't mean much.
+3 votes

No idea where anyone got his current parents from.

The current citations supporting his Shiplake birth are also incorrect. Those sources support his Caversham origin. His possible Shiplake birth seems to come from Richard H. Benson's 2003 "The Benson Family of Colonial Massachusetts." You can borrow this book at archive.org, but it is currently loaned out. The relevant material, however, seems to have been reprinted in the 2011 "Ancestors and Descendants of John Lewis Benson", which is cited as a source in the profile. Take a look at page 7 of that book at this link: https://books.google.com/books?id=StVrvB2XnGQC&dq=ship+confidence+built+1629&q=shiplake#v=snippet&q=shiplake&f=false . Apparently, Richard H. Benson found records of a Thomas Benson and Maud Warner who were married in Harpsden, Oxfordshire in 1575 and then show up in Shiplake, Oxfordshire. Thomas made his will in 1612 and named sons Thomas, Humphrey, William and Francis. Richard H. Benson thought that one of these sons was probably the father of John the immigrant, but didn't try to guess which one.

by Chase Ashley G2G6 Pilot (312k points)
edited by Chase Ashley

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